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Abstract Fainter - 2011-09-28

With the right voice over and a black and white reel feel, this would make great anti-communist propaganda.


Innocent Bystander - 2011-09-28

Sweet damn with the dupes already.

On a related topic: anyone have an opinion why these protests are bypassed in the media (or so I've heard, I don't live in your weird-ass country) while Teabaggers get publicity if they organize a poker game?


fatatty - 2011-09-28

Because the Tea Party was organized by Dick Armey, Freedomworks and Fox News and have millions of dollars in corporate influence behind them (And were originally inspired by a speech made by a CNBC anchor on how poor people defaulting on mortgages were the root of the recession, as opposed to the banks and investors). Also the Tea Party generally supports the status quo and all the changes they want are beneficial to their money backers who also control the corporate media. (Less Taxes and Regulation)

These protests are an actual internet grass roots protest opposed to the status quo and the current financial sector domination of the American economy. They don't have the backing of the corporations (and their media) because the changes they want are not beneficial to them. (More Taxes and Regulation)


THA SUGAH RAIN - 2011-09-28

fataty is an idiot. These protests are covered on the nightly news, though I don't understand why. They don't have a message, they dont have direction. They claim to be protesting "corporate influence in politics". Good luck with that guys!


Cena_mark - 2011-09-28

The tea party is well organized and well behaved. They don't act like idiots like these stupid ass college kids.
This video gets 5 stars because I relish in the misery of these dumbasses.


Oscar Wildcat - 2011-09-28

You'd think that given the facts mentioned by Fats, more thoughtful protestors would break out the tricorner hats and take up the mantle. There's no inherent reason this Tea Party thing can't be done right. No one owns the brand.

Also: I hope that was _organic_ pepper spray.


fatatty - 2011-09-28

They don't have a single message, but that doesn't mean they don't have a message (less money in politics, more public funding of campaigns, overturn of Citizens United and corporate personhood) and that doesn't mean they're insignificant. They are still going on. They've been going on for over a week now, quite a bit longer than any tea party protest which are never longer than an afternoon.

These are angry people, angry about real things who want reforms. They're messy and disorganized but most protests are. The Tea Party was less so because they were co-opted by a variety of Republican organizations who gave them real money and exposure. The Tea Party are angry about much of the same things as these protestors but they've been convinced by the GOP that the reason for their anger is Democrats and poor people, Wall St. has been largely shielded from Tea Party anger.

It's very doubtful you're going to see a more organized version of the Tea Party on the left because we still have Obama in office. The Republican party has much more to gain from supporting protests right now than the Democrats.

And yes the media pays these kids some attention, but not nearly as much or as serious as the Tea Party, which were almost instantly hailed as the new 3rd party or the 2nd revolution if you watch Fox News. I don't watch the nightly news but in all the news sources I do pay attention to, stories about them are few and far between.

I think the only idiots are people brushing this off as a bunch of bored college kids jerking off.


memedumpster - 2011-09-28

Message is easy. Rich people = should be lynched. Cops = fascists. Conservatives = Satan. America = rightfully doomed in an surprisingly just universe.


Void 71 - 2011-09-28

The news channels always ignore protests. This is just a continuation of what they did during the Bush years.


THA SUGAH RAIN - 2011-09-28

Once again fartaty is retarded. THIS IS ON THE NEWS EVERY NIGHT YOU FUCK. The "tea party" gets more attention because you know, they have people running for national elected office as oppose to these dumb fucks who dont even have a message.


fatatty - 2011-09-28

You act like I'm just making this shit up. It's not about the fact of whether or not it's being reported, it's the volume and it's the way it's reported. There's a lot more news than nightly news and nightly news is probably the least informative version of news you can get.

I'm not the only one talking about the lack of coverage.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/09/media-non-cove rage-occupy-wall-street-gets-lots-media-coverage/43013/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/ombudsman/2011/09/26/140815394/newswo rthy-determining-the-importance-of-protests-on-wall-street

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=4405

And honestly a lot of the complaints about non-coverage were from early on when there was a lot less coverage. It has grown as the protests have sustained for so long and people complained about the lack of coverage.

And the message is pretty clear, "We are pissed off at Wall St." Why do they need to say more than that?

There are a myriad of reasons to be and plenty of reforms that need to be made. These have been discussed ad nauseam and are being discussed on the forums of occupywallst.com right now. They are things like concentration of wealth, political interference and making insane profits from the recession they created. You'd have to live in a hole to not know why people are angry at Wall St.

The purpose of the protest and sit in is to make life difficult for people who work in the financial sector and haven't had to feel the pain of the recession like the rest of us. And if you don't think it's disrupting things then read this man bitch about what a bunch of spoiled brats they all are for disrupting things:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/09/28/2011-09-28_pray _for_snow.html


StanleyPain - 2011-09-28

I think it's funny how, when push kinda comes to shove, so many people around here are such gutless fucking apologists for the status quo.
"These protestors have no clear message."

Cute. Did you hear that on NPR or something? Because it's the kind of dumbshit thing someone would say who knows basically nothing at all about the protests and got their information about them from some 5 second news flash. Which, by the way, doesn't actually count as real coverage. In the actual reports from real journalists who aren't afraid to do some work, the amazing amount of organization and actual focus the core protestors have is actually pretty amazing. "No clear message" is media-speak jargon for "I can't quickly sum these people up into a byline." When you run around with generic platitudes as your "platform", like the Tea Party, it makes it easy to condense the coverage and to make little clips out of it without daring to venture into the difficult questions raised by REAL protestors, not just people who are irrational and angry because a black man is president. The Wall St. thing is designed to draw attention to many different problems and the media is having trouble figuring out how to best explain that to people because their afraid to actually do real reporting because of that long hallowed myth of "FAIR AND BALANCE FAIR AND BALANCED." If they go too deep, OMG IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE THEY'RE TAKING SIDES WITH THE PROTESTORS, so instead it's easier to just be chicken shits and paint them all as hipsters who want free wifi and say "fuck the pigs" when that comprises 1% of them, if that.

Maybe what they're doing IS pointless or maybe taking the wrong direction, but at least they're doing something and trying to draw attention to something that is outrage not revolving around uneducated rednecks talking about things they literally have no education in. And the media should give them credit for that...but instead it's easier to just ignore it or treat it as something not to be taken seriously.


SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-09-28

"The tea party is well organized and well behaved."

Organized? Sure, when it's become the most popular "forget we supported Bush and HEY THERE'S A BLACK GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE" Republican front for monied interests ever seen.

Well behaved? Forgot about all the town hall meeting shout-downs, have we?


Change - 2011-09-28

Yeah, I'm not the one who's going to one star this.


THA SUGAH RAIN - 2011-09-28

I am. These idiots don't have anything to bring to the table. They may as well be protesting lolcats.


Abstract Fainter - 2011-09-29

Oh No! Sugah Rain is bringing the hammer down!


boggy84 - 2011-09-29

haha the sugah rain is a shitty little bootlicker who can only get hard when cops put the truncheon to his tiny cock + balls.


chumbucket - 2011-09-28

Dupe and pretty darn sad this is the only filmed and posted case of this happening.


kingarthur - 2011-09-28

There are more. There's been a lot posted at MR Zine and Monthly Review.

And frankly, I think the goal is pretty well established. This is an effort to remove private funding of all political campaigns and overturn the disastrous Citizens United decision. The negative coverage this action has been getting is pretty reprehensible, but I echo fatatty's summary.


Comeuppance - 2011-09-28

http://poetv.com/video.php?vid=99985


baleen - 2011-09-28

Japonica, I've eaten there before.


SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-09-28

See, this is what happens to actual grass-roots protests that, unlike the Tea Party, aren't backed by PACs, networks owned by Rupert Murdoch, or corporate entities like the Koch Brothers.


misterbuns - 2011-09-28

Or with protests full of people who don't need the assistance of walkers and oxygen tanks.


flotsam - 2011-09-30

My irritation with this protest is that there is no way of getting involved if you don't live in one of these cities, or if you have to adhere to a work schedule. As a sane person, I'm not going to spend money to bus there for something that I don't see working out in the long run. What exactly are these protests supposed to accomplish? The movers and shakers don't seem to be affected at all by people living in front of their establishments, nor do the people sitting at home.

How can your cause get anywhere if a large number of people can't get involved, or if there is no tangible goal to reach towards?

This will all probably all fizzle out once the cold sets in. And in the end, everything will return to normal.


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