duck&cover  - 2012-10-04
Ugh, me big chief Dead-Bird-On-Head, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo!
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duck&cover - 2012-10-04 Yeah, I saw that painting, and the story about it. Depp still looks really stupid.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-10-05 I never said he didn't.
Not that I plan on seeing it, but it'd be kind of funny if this was one of those movies where, if you squint at it just right, Tonto could be some kind of hallucination the crazy guy in the mask is having.
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Rosebeekee - 2012-10-05 What makes the white man pretending to be the red man white.
Also fedex, are you serious? Would I be right in guessing that ~*MYESTIKAL INGIN MAGICK*~ is involved?
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-10-07 Not dead? Wot, is 'e restin'? Pinin' for the fjords?
It's a stiff, bereft of life, 'e rests in peace. If you 'adn't glued 'im to the top o' Depp's 'ead 'eed be pushin' up the daisies!
In movie-land, maybe it's not dead, but a bird that doesn't move its head and keeps its wings out constantly, even when upside-down, is either dead or on some kind of prescription medication. Whatever is attached to Tonto's head is most definitely lacking a pulse.
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takewithfood - 2012-10-04
“I guess I have some Native American somewhere down the line. My great grandmother was quite a bit of Native American, she grew up Cherokee or maybe Creek Indian. Makes sense in terms of coming from Kentucky, which is rife with Cherokee and Creek."
It's okay, guys, she was quite a bit. Totally not redface at all!
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StanleyPain - 2012-10-04
On the upside, there's no way this movie could suck worse than the 1981 film.
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BHWW - 2012-10-04
Oh is the great Johnny Depp going to grace the screen with another of his laboriously 'eccentric' performances again? I CAN'T WAIT
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Hooker - 2012-10-04
Here's the most interesting part of the trailer when I watched it:
I have a set of routines when I watch a new YouTube video. Wait to see if there no ads, full screen, turn off annotations, check the rear-view mirror, and brush my teeth. This time, I decided, "Hey, this is from a major company. Maybe I should just leave annotations on. Surely a study-grouped, paranoid corporation would only use the annotations feature wisely." I begin watching, and a minute goes by; so far, so good. And then, BAM! "Click Like!"
Why do people use annotations like popups? It's just incredibly obnoxious in an environment where I've dealt with and hated unwanted advertising and messages forced in front of me for 15 years now.
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Toenails - 2012-10-04
Yeah, there's a lot of talk about Johnny Depp's turn as Tonto, but a bird for a hat is not going to live up to madness found in the short story "Faithful Companion at Forty".
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WHO WANTS DESSERT - 2012-10-04
After Rango I can't not give another Gore Verbinski western a shot.
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Jeriko-1 - 2012-10-04
ForeverAlone Ranger
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dead_cat - 2012-10-04
If they still have that guy firing silver bullets they damn well better make sure to call him out on being a wasteful sonofabitch. With supernatural accuracy, no less.
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SDAusmus - 2012-10-05 Warren Ellis had a great bit in "Planetary" with a Lone Ranger analog fashioning his bullets from silver and tipping the bullets with the mercury leavings so that the people he "only shot to wound" would end up dying anyway, supposedly of shame for their crimes.
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gmol - 2012-10-05
I could see a bit of anger coming from people who ask "You mean you really couldn't fill that role with someone that looked a little more Native American?"
I'm sure there will be a few zingers in the script that denigrate the European invaders for the genocide in North America, but they will only be there to assuage the producers and audience of any guilt for being complacent about a rather blatant asymmetry in the popular culture industry.
For some reason people with lots of melanin in their skin can't act as people with little melanin in their skin, but the converse perfectly fine.
One of these days I hope I can hire a group of fabulously talented makeup artists to make a short film set in Victorian England, with lots of top hats, fluffy gowns and parasols. There will be some sort of inconsequential story of unrequited love...and then at the end of the film you hear the director call "cut!" and you can watch everyone break for lunch and peel away the makeup to reveal browny brown skin and doing brown things like speaking some weird language and eating some food with garlic and spices in it.
That Hitler fim from India was a good try, but one would aim to do an order of magnitude better than that.
I hear non-white actors complain about this type of thing all the time, I think it just made more sense to me after watching the trailer.
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Hooker - 2012-10-05 I want to remake Blazing Saddles, but have all African- and Chinese-American actors playing the white person parts in whiteface and white people playing all the black and asian parts in black/yellowface. I might even be able to sneak in some purpleface somewhere, but I haven't quite figured that part out yet.
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Bort - 2012-10-05
Not sure I'd go as far as "racism" here. The questions I always ask are:
- Was there a respectful intention?
- Was it informed?
- Is it making too much use of imagery or details that racists have appropriated?
- (for live action) Did they hire some white guy and use makeup rather than find an actor of the appropriate ancestry?
Where Johnny Depp is concerned, there ought to be a fifth question: "Seriously, Johnny Depp?"
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Bort - 2015-08-07 Basically, a ton of poor choices, but I don't think the intention was to demean Native Americans or even lean on stereotypes. If anything, I think they were trying to make Tonto so weird as to blow right past all the stereotypes.
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Billy the Poet - 2012-10-05
No one's even going to note that the lead in this picture is a leavening agent?
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dementomstie - 2012-10-05 Lead role, sure, but he gets second billing in the trailer. Johnny Depp is the only name on the first card of the "Credits" of this trailer. The Lone Ranger is listed as second billed in the trailer for The Lone Ranger.
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deadpan - 2012-10-05
I'm just going to treat this as a sequel to Dead Man.
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That guy - 2012-10-05 Please no.
Unrelated to your comment but forever bound to it:
I nearly cast one of the actresses in this in a short I made a while back. Even the bit part she has in this is a huge jump, since she hadn't done anything to speak of before it. Being good-looking can't hurt her chances, though. Aah, movies.....
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Caminante Nocturno - 2012-10-05
Johnny Depp confuses me.
I suppose that deserves 5 stars.
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Rodents of Unusual Size - 2012-10-05
I think it bears mentioning that the Comanche nation adopted Johnny Depp and they signed off on this film, which makes me wonder if Depp is either really respectful of Native American beliefs and has a genuine interest in their culture. Or if some movie execs just paid them off and they shrugged it off as fucking stupid but at least they can profit off of the stupidity.
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Rosebeekee - 2012-10-05 Did the Comanche people get to see a preview of the film? Because I don't understand how you can sign off on a movie that won't be out until next year and just had it's first trailer released.
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Hooker - 2012-10-05 Is seeing the movie the goalposts now? Because Johnny Depp, who is being taken to task for playing the role, hadn't seen the movie before he agreed to participate, either.
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2012-10-05 Yeah, I'm thinking they sought approval for the script. Nobody's going to tempt fate by asking for approval on the finished, 50 million dollar movie.
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chumbucket - 2012-10-05
For an idea that might actually be a decent movie, that trailer sucked!
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John Holmes Motherfucker - 2012-10-05
If this isn't unintentionally hilarious, it should be considered a triumph. The preload image makes me want to ask who's playing the cop and the construction worker.
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Кotki - 2012-10-06
What's that? Johny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter together in a film? When has that ever happened!
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