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Desc:So take that in your primary and smoke it.
Category:News & Politics, Educational
Tags:politics, president, election, obama, rachel maddow
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Comment count is 41
Kabbage - 2012-11-08
SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-11-08
I'm so glad someone is telling the right wing that they need to step out of the echo chamber.

A pity they won't hear it due to their echo chamber.
Cena_mark - 2012-11-08
I remember not liking her a while back. I'm glad she's become more sensible.
Jet Bin Fever - 2012-11-08
She has always been sensible. It's you that changed my friend.

Aelric - 2012-11-08
Yeah Cena, you've gone from frothing troll to occasionally reasonable. You used to never be able to get beyond her sexuality. I recall your arguments against her summed up to "...but she's a gay!" And I still have a total crush on her, despite that.

fedex - 2012-11-08
cena is living proof that what Rachel says can happen

Cena_mark - 2012-11-08
I'd get past her sexuality. I would just throw that in on top of the facts and figures I had refuting her positions.

Cena_mark - 2012-11-08
Mind you everything I said back then was still right. 2 even 3 years ago my strange breed quasi libertarianism was exactly what the country needed. Now it is no longer right for the country.

HarrietTubmanPI - 2012-11-08
Or it couldn't possibly by that you changed your mind and what you thought 2-3 years ago was dead wrong.

Which is more likely, that you changed, or the entire world changed for you?

takewithfood - 2012-11-08
Hey, I still don't like her, though I prefer her to Matthews and O'Donnell, and I sure don't miss Olbermann.

And at any rate, stars for the ridiculous fantasy world that half the U.S. still lives in. I don't know why they don't just pretend that Romney won, while they're at it.

Aelric - 2012-11-08
They will. Oh god, they will.

baleen - 2012-11-08
Being a pro-war, pro-military Keynesian is indeed very quasi-libertarian, Mark.

Cena_mark - 2012-11-08
If Obama is too far to the right for you, you're plain nuts.

memedumpster - 2012-11-09
If Obama is too far to the right for you, you're a liberal of ten years ago. When Democrats radicalize, they run screaming to the right in fear and terror.

CornOnTheCabre - 2012-11-13
cena_mark is still baleen

Aelric - 2012-11-13
Baleen/Cena_Mark '16

Pillager - 2012-11-08
jangbones - 2012-11-08
This is the third thing I've seen suggesting that this will be a wake up call to the fact-free narrative the right wing media is spinning. I don't buy it.

The people doing the spinning make a lot of money by doing so. Obama's re-election gives Fox and Limbaugh and Beck higher ratings. If they start speaking the truth, their audience will leave them to find comfort elsewhere. The echo chamber is divorced from reality, and not even a big reality check will change that. If anything, it will strengthen their ignorance.
Cena_mark - 2012-11-08
Yeah, but the choir loves this.

chumbucket - 2012-11-08
The choir and peanut gallery can bitch all it wants but ultimately the actual D.C. politics of getting someone in office will mean a big change in how they sell and select a candidate. It will only mean that what was the Republican party after this will likely look nothing akin to the mess of media/bloggers/vloggers hanging onto the current insanity. Maybe they'll go off and create their own little island nation or something.

RockBolt - 2012-11-08
But they have lived lately by swaddling themselves in the idea that Obama was a fluke and a fad, and that they can win whatever by only appealing to old white people. Now it has been confirmed that no amount of money can buy back the support that they lose by shitting all over minorities and women, and if they ever want to win again they might actually have to learn to appeal to the realities of 21st century demographics without trying to just disenfranchise half the country.

In reality now the Republicans have only won ONE popular presidential vote since the 80's. At some point it has to collapse, because at some point the people in the GOP that have brains and aspirations for their own careers are going to start doing what they need to do for themselves- see Chris Christie.

spikestoyiu - 2012-11-08
Yeah, if anything, they're just going to become more ridiculous.

Adham Nu'man - 2012-11-08
Both what Cena and Rockbolt wrote is true.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2012-11-08
All she's saying is that this an opportunity for the Republicans. No one actually believes that they're going to take it.

John Holmes Motherfucker - 2012-11-08
>>Yeah, if anything, they're just going to become more ridiculous.

It's what they've always done in the past.

FABIO - 2012-11-09
Eh. For decades it's always boiled down to the most charismatic candidate. The instant Obama is out, Republicans will serve up an acceptable "aw shucks" candidate and Democrats will drop the ball with another Kerry.

Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2012-11-08
The top YT comment:

"I am glad the Republicans lost, I was worried I would have to get my kids a King James version of their science book."
jreid - 2012-11-08
Typical liberal mistake, pleading logic and sensibility like that.
John Holmes Motherfucker - 2012-11-08
She's pleading reality. This election was a triumph for the reality-based community.

CJH - 2012-11-08
reality is obama on a pile of skulls, don't act like the other side doesn't have delusions too

Caminante Nocturno - 2012-11-08
Oh, Rachel Maddow. Sometimes I wish I were a woman and a lesbian so that I could legitimately swoon over you.

Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to settle for respecting you.
Binro the Heretic - 2012-11-08
I would have this woman's babies.

Seriously if/when science figures out a way to give men a uterus, I will carry any fetus she cares to produce.
Xenocide - 2012-11-08
Maddow nails it. Perhaps the most beautiful thing about Tuesday night is that so many people -- people whose JOB it is to monitor and analyze politics -- were utterly shocked by Romney's loss. We had weeks of conservatives saying "it's a dead heat!" or "Romney is winning!" even as Romney's poll numbers cratered. We had George Will predicting 350 electoral vote victory for Mitt. We had Karl Rove making a fool of himself in front of millions of people.

It's one thing to lose an election, but at least McCain and Dole's supporters saw the writing on the wall and knew they needed a miracle. Romney supporters were popping the champagne bottles before a single vote had been counted. That's a hell of a place to come down from.
Paracelsus - 2012-11-08
Yeah, Karl Rove. Yeah. God bless ya. Here's to ya.

Now go home and get your fucking shinebox.
cognitivedissonance - 2012-11-08
It al stems from the key pat of their religion... no, not the part about Jesus, not the part about creationism, not the part about America being a special country with special historical rules... it all stems from Think Yourself Rich.

In the Republican world, the only thing that's holding us back from being THE BEST COUNTRY EVAR is a lack of optimism from the other side of the country. If only we all agree that we're doing the right thing 100% of the time, and that there are no factual consequences from having a systemic failure of injustice and hatred. It's all locker room pep talks for them. It's all Napoleon Hill and New Thought. They should've won this election because they wanted it more, the illogic goes. They've mistaken objectivity, TRUE objectivity, the kind that doesn't need to capitalize itself, for pessimism. We'd weep with them if we knew something would come of their tears, but nothing will. They'll muster the Tea Party for 2014 and get a few seats back, and try the money bomb again in 2016. And they'll probably win that one, and no lessons will be learned.
StanleyPain - 2012-11-08
I agree with this 100%....BUT, it's also important we start holding Obama to some serious standards. I agree that the right wing in this country has basically gone down a bat-shit crazy route and is no longer actually contributing anything to the country, but the left needs to stop being quite so complacent in so many things. One of the big things this next four years needs to be liberals at large putting pressure on Obama to stop this pussy-footing around the shit like keeping Gitmo open, the illegal drone strikes, the support for draconian anti-internet-freedom bills, and all that stuff. I voted for Obama first time knowing he was sort of basically a Republican when it came to a lot of issues, but now we need to start holding him to a higher standard.
cognitivedissonance - 2012-11-08
Amen. NOW is the time you can be all quixotic about ideological purity. The storm has passed.

kingarthur - 2012-11-11

Hegemony Cricket - 2012-11-09
Ambivalently eating, shitting, and sleeping my way towards personal oblivion, I look up to care with the mob about a competitive circus that passes through every few harvests.

Regardless of side, the call is put out by the supporters of the winner to support the winner--as clearly their win makes the others loss a repudiation of their platform.

But the other side believed in that platform and views said repudiation as bullshit (funderfully profitable bullshit). However, due to shock, they keep that to themselves for a few days before attempting to apply new methods of dredging fresh meat towards their side.

I love this woman in unrealistic ways, mainly due to the lack of cynicism in the message she and her staff craft. I often wish she wouldn't do opposite-day versions of stuff her opposition does, but she makes me want to be Jimmy Stewart in Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Yes, she does.

It's too bad we're turning into Mars with actual Pyramids.

:::wine bottle emptied:::
memedumpster - 2012-11-09
Oh come on, you guys, all that sense talking and big words was just to schmooze her Ronies (Rachel Bronies), the only thing she suggested Republicans do is secede.

You're all so program ready. : )
themilkshark - 2012-11-11
I can remember years ago when I first saw her show and I loved it. I immediately thought that MSNBC was going to get dropped or she would get fired, because it's just too good for the stupid asses who watch cable news. It's now 2012 and Obama's been re-elected, and I give her a load of credit. Her skill at dissecting the news has helped me stay informed over the years, and she's my most trusted voice on TV.
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