"When I put that little wiener in my mouth, I knew everything was not quite right."

I thought you were making a completely absurdest comment, but no, he actually said that.

Its fun to be on the winning side this time. Thank you POETV for helping make this transformation. If not for you I'd be as sad and confused as these dorks.

Not to knock your progress, Cena ol' buddy, but seeing as Obama spent the lat four years being virtually indistinguishable from Bush, siding with him wasn't much of a transformation.

The more things change...!

You mean apart from banning abortion, cutting taxes for the rich, doing anything on the healthcare front, tying disaster relief to budget cuts, banning gay marriage, etc., right?

Seriously, he's not perfect, and the drone strikes need to stop, but saying he's "just like Bush" is about as insightful as calling him a poopy-head.

If Obama is too far right for you, you need to move to France.

Kleenex- Oh, yeah, sorry. Silly me. I just plumb forgot about that time Bush "banned abortion" and "banned gay marriage". Because those things totally happened. Just like Obama closing Gitmo and that time he decided to pull out of Iraq right away, not just in time for the election and only because the Iraqi government wasn't going to give us immunity from war crimes prosecution. HOPE AND CHANGE.

Cena- Atta boy. There's the Cena we love!

Its just that you super-liebarals expected way too much change. He didn't start wars, he adopted them. H was congressionally cock-blocked in 2010, and much of his time and energy is going towards health care.
Some of those things you mentioned are 2nd term things. He'll get them done. Also Obama now supports gay marriage, which neither Bush or Romney would do. Also they would ban abortion if they could.

Matters of policy aside (and I will agree that Obama is too close to Bush in some regards, though you have to try pretty damn hard to not see any major differences), characteristic number one I expect from any civil servant is competence. When you receive a report saying that a terrorist has plans to strike, you contact your law enforcement agencies and tell them to put their people on it. When said terrorist is hiding somewhere in Pashtun territory, you don't shift your target to a country whose leader is easier to find. And when a hurricane is bearing down on a major city, you don't fuck off to Arizona to celebrate McCain's birthday until your inaction, as well as your hand-picked subordinate's, has been news for days.

Cena- so, what? He "adopted" Libya? He adopted Yemen? I suppose next he's going to be "adopting" Iran from some parallel universe where Rimney won.

And nevermind the fact that Obama's track record on "gay marriage" has been less than lukewarm. Nevermind either that I, personally, don't care about gay marriage itself so much as the underlying issue of whether the government has any right to legislate consensual activities at all (the Dems, like the Reps, want to keep that right on the table). The last thing of any real substance Obama did vis a vis gay marriage was indicate his support for handing the matter over to the states. No shit. Here's an allegedly black New Leftist pitching "states rights" in regards to the fundamental civil rights of a full tenth of the country.

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Christ, I'm not even thirty yet, and I'm already a bigger cynical cunt than my father.

For some reason this thread made me think of Romney with an H on his forehead and that made me laugh.

Don't be cynical, EvilHomer, you have to see the voter from Obama's point of view. You look something like this :

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We all look like that. Nothing else. Ever.

Unless you look like :

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Then, he loves you and wants you back. Our president is less complicated than the machines used to elect him. He also left union busting to states rights.

Dammit GoodPeterGriffin, you're starting to sound like a Paultard. No matter who we elect we're still Americans and we fight for the rights of every man. We did what we had to in Libya and Yeman, and what do you mean his record on gay marriage is lukewarm. He's the first fuckin' president to support it. I don't care if he didn't in the past, he supports it now. He supported before the election. Respect the man, he has balls.

If you slightly cross your eyes you can superimpose them on each other to produce a kind of 3D effect an -- uh ...


OH MY GOD IT'S FULL OF DOUCHE

Every time I'm with my FOX news watching father and bring up some shitty thing the Republican party has done, he always counters with THE OTHER SIDE DOES THE SAME THING!

Even with the voter suppression tricks like robocall/flier misinformation and intimidation. If someone can show me even one of those aimed at suppressing conservative turnout I will personally eat them and record it for youtube.

Eat the fliers I meant!

eat Fox News or gtfo

Oh, you're SO going to eat me!

Please let it be the latter! I'm not done laughing yet.

I'm hopeful they're on the final escalator down into the forgotten vaults of political history.

pretty sure its the latter

well, considering that Boehner is already insisting that the dismantling of Obamacare MUST be on the table for the so-called 'fiscal cliff' negotiations, it looks like it'll be the latter

I've read a few theories about that and the best I can tell is that the Romney campaign and Fox News were getting high on their own supply.

Of course you tell the rubes it's a close race: you need them to watch your shows so you can make money. But after lying for so long, after saying that the current polling is skewed and it's massively oversampling democrat voters, you forget that it's all bullshit and start to really believe it.