Every time I see/hear anything about Powter I think of a comment that was on one of her vids here, perhaps the organic pear thing, anyway, "I'd pee in her butt." is the only thing I can think of now when I'm reminded she exists.

Ricki Lake didn't have a problem doing it.

Ricky Lake isn't as scrawny as Susan Powter, either.

She's leaner than she was in her early days, but she's still a big gal. It's the way she's built and there's nothing wrong with it.

As I said, Sidibe could probably trim down some, but she will always be big.

See, we always get our wires crossed in these discussions, because we're so obsessed with appearance we can't have a simple discussion about health.

I don't remember Susan Powter ever saying anything attacking the self esteem of women. Maybe I'm wrong, but the discussion is pre-broken.

Sibde will always be big, and if she tried to get all Nicole Kidman, it would be a bad health choice. She's cute. Maybe you wouldn't want to fuck her, but she's attractive in a way that makes her engaging to listen to, and since you can only fuck sio many people, that's what ought to count most of the time. She's charismatic. She has a right to feel attractive and respected.

But she needs to lose weight, or she will suffer for it. Everything Susan Powter is true. How do we convey both of those messages at once? Because we really need to do that.

Unfortunately, everybody (especially women) is supposed to look like someone whom everyone would want to fuck, all the time. That's got nothing to do with reality, but it's great for selling products,

As fucked up as it is, the standard for physical attractiveness is further distorted by fantasy expectations. I hate to do this, but here's a music video that got a lot of comments about how INCREDIBLY fat the girl is. Seriously? Check out those skinny little legs when she makes her entrance.

http://youtu.be/tHweocGg5N8

Susan Powter and the League of Extraordinarily Large ladies or whatever need to get together on this. People who cruelly mock fat girls sometimes pretend that they're concerned about health. i think they're lying, and they're certainly not helping. If we're obsessed with body image as a society, , and we have an obesity problem as a society, it's possible that being obsessed with body image is not a cure for obesity. But focusing on health is good. We really need to just forget about that other stuff. if you're healthy, someone will want to fuck you, and one is all you really need.

Saying Gabourey Sidibe "gets roles", while accurate, is a little generous.

Oddly enough, I actually ran into her while in Atlantic City over the summer. She is very, very, very big. So big that her face appears to be swallowing its own features. She was with a group of far more attractive girls who she bought dinner for.

Super cool story.

I ironically bought a VHS tape at a thrift store labeled "Cat Entertainment #1." It was a video of fish or something, you know, to leave on the TV when you leave your cats and go to the store or whatever. That was the the sleeve of the VHS. Inside the thing though, when I got home, I realized it was a Susan Powter shopping video from the early 90's and I couldn't have been happier for like 5 minutes. She is admittedly too boring to be all that and a bag 'o chips, even as crazy as she is.

Cats love Susan Powter!

JOHN NOT EVERY THING CAN BE EXPLAINED WITH BOXXY PLEASE GET NEW EXPERIENCES GODDAMMIT JOHNNNNN

Fuck you, dude. You saying that I never talk about anything else, and that's literally not true, so learn to read fucktard.

>>JOHN NOT EVERY THING CAN BE EXPLAINED WITH BOXXY PLEASE GET NEW EXPERIENCES GODDAMMIT JOHNNNNN

Well, shit OF COURSE not everything can be explained by Boxxy, but is completely relevant. I wouldn't have cited it otherwise,, but the fact that it bothers you makes me want to elaborate.

I repeat: This video

http://youtu.be/tHweocGg5N8

got a barrage of nasty comments about how fat she is. And she seems perfectly normal, healthy and attractive. This is what girls are exposed to now, and the layers of pain over body image make communicating and confronting health issues difficult. We don't need a fat acceptance movement so much a "normal body" acceptance movement.

When she talks about being "lean" or "healthy", she gestures at her own body. It's subtle, but it's there.

Powter's schtick has always been "you are fat and unhealthy because you are mentally weak. Buy my videos and I'll teach you to be strong."

Well, that's subtle, all right. Even if the gesture means "be like me?", which seems like a stretch, do you really think it means "be the same size as me"?

Fuck Susan Powter, I'm only interested in defending her up to a point, and we're well past that. But I feel like you're reinforcing my initial point, which is that the discussion is broken. We're shaming people for having a health problem, and that makes legitimate honest discussion taboo.

Being "skinny" is not the goal here. Fat acceptance is one thing, but the fucked up body ideals really do have to be discarded. Gwenyth Paltrow has the genetics and she STILL has to eat disgusting shit to maintain that shape. Angelina Jolie is staring to look scary.

In the 30s, a group of Obstetricians and gynecologists issued a statement praising Mae West for promoting the natural fullness of the female figure. They called her "a boon to motherhood". Do we have any stars like that now? maybe doctors should start handing out awards, a health appropriate equivalent of People's yearly "Sexiest Man alive".

But you know, this is another level to how fucked up we are. With an obesity epidemic, doctors are probably reluctant to encourage women not to suffer for ridiculous skinniness, lest they be seen to be encouraging obesity.

Eat lots of fiber and walk everywhere, people.