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takewithfood - 2013-06-18

Neither of them knows much of anything about what they're debating. I have more productive and deeply scientific conversations with my 2 year-old nephew.


CornOnTheCabre - 2013-06-18

to be fair, the other gentleman had already lost by agreeing to "debate" Bryan Fischer


bac - 2013-06-19

That's exactly the problem.


gravelstudios - 2013-06-18

do we really need to keep submitting videos of this guy? I mean, I know it's evil and all, but at what point does it just get boring and predictable?


Old_Zircon - 2013-06-18

This is one of those times where it would be nice if we could gracefully submit playlists or channels instead of single videos.


misterbuns - 2013-06-18

I think it's okay, but what I don't like is submitting videos from official channels that have comments turned off.

I don't like the idea of giving these people's channels views, especially when they prohibit discussion.

Videos like this usually get mirrored by Media Matters or Right Wing Watch, channels that allow comments and the comments are half the fun of these videos.

Also, they generally have a wider audience and I love the idea of mirrors of these videos getting more views than the original.

It shows that encouraging discussion gets a wider audience than censorship, lets the internet openly mock them, shows the world that this rhetoric still exists while also depriving them of views, which actually does impact their business model a bit.


misterbuns - 2013-06-18

A wonderful concept, their proper place in the world: their individual rhetoric, by itself is irrelevant. What the internet cares about are projects that follow trends in popular thought and aggregate their instances to make a point about how openly misleading and bogus propaganda still play a large part of the formation of people's attitudes in a world that seems modern.


bac - 2013-06-19

I whole Heartily agree with your idea.

I lived in Kansas for a year in 09 and got to hear this guys shtick straight off the American Family Association's radio station. I certainly understand the appeal of listening to him if you haven't heard him before. And seeing as how he's pretty high up in the AFA people should know who he is and what he stands for.

He isn't worth keeping updates on though. He can't outrageous himself anymore If you've heard him talk on science and the gays, then you know where he will always stand. And no shred of evidence will ever change his viewpoint. That is of course giving him the benefit of the doubt that he does, in fact, believe the stream of liquid shit he says on a daily basis and isn't just pounding the drums for money...which he most certainly is doing.

His entire radio show is just a daily two hour infomercial, "The left wing gestapo fascists are coming for your beliefs, and the mainstream media, even those over at fox news, who mostly do great things, aren't telling you what this is actually going to cause to happen..." ect. ect. ect. is a common running theme.

I like to think I got over this guy awhile ago, but dammit I keep coming back. listening to him speak with his overly saliva filled mouth, so reminiscent of someone trying to, not so much, eat a piece of toffee but savor it. Now I'm just rambling. I am looking forward to the gay scandal though.


Blue - 2013-06-19

I wish they would stop talking so much about evolution during these debates. What's with Creationism? What predictions does it make and how could it be falsified? How is this knowledge used in industry and agriculture?


Kieran27 - 2013-06-19

They'll never do that. Creationists tend to have a view of the world that's very simple. Something is either right or it is wrong, it is black or white. In their minds, if they can prove evolutionary theory is wrong (or at least not completely correct) then creationism wins by default. And that way creationism doesn't have to explain what it does, it just needs to point out how others are wrong.


bac - 2013-06-19

I really like his,
1. agree,
2. obfuscate,
3. smoke and mirrors (a.k.a. jibba-jabba)
4. come back with an entirely new question unrelated to what was originally asked,
Style of debate.

He never answers a question, and he never addresses any point brought up to him. He prattles on about some vaguely related subject and then asks something else instead. It's a good tactic of debate when you don't know what you're talking about or know you don't have a leg to stand on.

I'm not sure if he's really good at it or I've just never actually seen him talk with anybody who, doesn't already agree with him, or isn't a news broadcastor...

Or, isn't like the putz in this video, I don't care if you're a 4.0 GPA at MIT if you call this guy up on his radio show to engage in a debate about science than you're a dumber than a bag of hammers.


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