absolutely correct

Yup. Chaplinsky vs. New Hampshire ruled that "fighting words" are not protected under free speech.

I misspelled hemorrhoids. Sorry hemorrhoids.

hemorrhoids are more offended by the association than the misspelling.

Are you the least racist of those two?

i'm not racist at all

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=124624

this is what i've been saying the whole time. is this racist?

no, you said you're the least racist person here, and the real question is how racist do you think the rest of us are to make you the least racist?

Are you also the blackest person here, after getting a tan?

there are other posters here who are very racist, because they bring up race when it's not even the issue being discussed. do you understand how saying "it's because he was black!" over and over again is racist?

the whole reason i was called a racist was because i said zimmerman walked primarily because of the laws in florida, and NOT because of racism. i complained that it was turned into a race issue and nobody was talking about that flawed law, and because of that people started calling me a racist. so yeah, i'm thinking i'm one of the least racist people here. race isn't on my mind at all

"They bring up race when it's not being discussed."

A comment from Zerdzer on the Zerdzer calls radio show video:

"why zimmerman and trayvon got into an altercation the night trayvon died likely has something to do with race, but the verdict of the case clearly doesn't."

So it has nothing to do with race, but it likely did, so it doesn't. If it's an UNDERLYING CAUSE that allows a stupid law to protect someone who murders someone else, it's still a factor.

jangbones is trying to incite a POETV riot.

KILL WHITEY!!!

Calling racists out on their racism makes you racist. Its the right wing "I know you are, but what am I" strategy. Just thinking race may have played a role in the Trayvon Martin tragedy makes us all racists. I'm very very sorry for being a racist turdzer.

zimmerman likely racially profiled trayvon, that's the only part of this case that was racist. the verdict wasn't racist. what do you think i was saying there?

how zimmerman made stupid decisions and the verdict of the case are two completely separate things.

so how exactly does making this observation make me racist?

How are we racist to think that the Jury and the trial were affected by race. The defense and the right wing media thugged up Trayvon. They practically made him out to be Tookie. Juror B37 is clearly a sheltered middle aged soccer mom who was easily convinced by this.
Also what about the fact that Zimmerman wasn't even arrested the night of the shooting? It took public outrage to get it done. Do you think the police wouldn't have arrested Zimmerman if he'd shot a white teenager.
You may not be a racist, but you're a damned fool for thinking Race had a nonexistent role in helping Zimmerman get away.

the poorly executed prosecution and the janky laws of florida are the main reasons zimmerman got off.

all of the media, right and left, said stupid racially charged things about this case. sure, that makes people perceive it as racist. zimmerman wasn't arrested at the night of the shooting, sure, that would have been in part because of racism. if he shot a white teenager? who the hell knows?

i maintain that the verdict was not racist

"wrong"?

verdict wasn't wrong either. but the law is wrong, and that's what we should be talking about, obviously

I have a cure for your racism Zerdzer. Watch this video 50 times and call me in the morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

I'm pretty racist. You should hear some of the shit I say about Earth Ponies at the Pegasus Pride rallies.

How about you just starve to death then.

Poor, poor zerdzer. Blacks get everything.

Zerdzer more like turdzer. You suck

Denying that racism exists doesn't make you less racist, idiot.

Starve to death, Cena? What, are you saying the Earth ponies *won't do their jobs*? NO SURPRISES THERE.

Earth ponies live on the ground because they choose to be there. Maybe if they weren't so lazy things would get better for them? They can start by not mooching off the Weather Creators all the goddamn time.

Lazy? The most lazy character is that goddamned Rainbow Naps!

i never once denied racism that racism exists, how is what i'm saying even being construed that way? are you people serious

She naps hard because she plays hard.

so much facepalming at people calling zerd racist

this is exactly how it feels to watch WBC trying to justify itself. surprised to see some names on here I thought were attached to more intelligent people.

i never once denied that racism exists*

it's like, since i said this is spun to be more racist by the media, people construe that as "oh zerdzer's tired of people talking about racism, racist alert! racism denier!"

i'm actually calling the media and the people who emphasize the racial elements of the case racist. this shit didn't happen solely because trayvon martin is black. that was just one factor, and that one factor is emotional for many people, so the media played it up and now this whole thing is about race. i guess nobody but me sees how this is racist and manipulative

Come on, Gmork. You know how media-sponsored hate fests work. Racist Hispanic men are threatening our community, and we need to weed out the people who aren't sufficiently horrified (because they could be one of Them). Get with the program and stop acting like Hitler.

Or ZERDZER, as we call him in these parts.

Hahaha, here's Gmork!

Also, love how terd read that as "denying [the concept of] racism exist."

This thread should definitely go on even longer. We need to have a serious discussion about race relations in america on poetv.com.

http://xkcd.com/386/

lol ok

if you want to talk about how racism exists in the context of this case, then you should have said so

zimmerman racially profiled trayvon, and part of the reason zimmerman wasn't immediately taken in for questioning by the cops was due to race (mostly because of the laws in florida). that is the extent of the racial shit in this case, but the media blew it way out of proportion.

it's like now there's two positions a person can possibly have:

"EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CASE IS RACIST"

and

"I AM A RACIST"

isn't that right?

You are totally incapable of anything other than binary options, huh?

i'm saying that you people are incapable of anything other than binary options, if you actually read my comment

i think racism plays a part in this case but it's maybe 10% of the problem at most, the biggest problem is the shoddy laws in florida allowing you to do what zimmerman did and not get any time at all for it. this is what i've said from the beginning. of course, this isn't as extreme an opinion as "the system is racist and that's why trayvon isn't getting justice", so that makes me a racist because i am not acknowledging racism enough!

people here are just mad because i called them racist because they kept bringing up the issue of race

The problem must be everyone else.

Actually, that's not fair. You've managed to get Gmork on your side.

Are we done abusing zerdzer yet? They're not Cena, or Gmork, you know. This is not a person who can even keep the contradictions from one post to another at bay, let alone maintain a coherent personal opinion across two weeks and five videos.

You don't see Christians coming here and using these kinds of arguments (because the denial of evidence and the repetition of bullshit until it sticks is their number one MO) because they are smarter than this.

Zerdzer doesn't understand the possibility of their feelings being incorrect, and the need for rational method to verify or falsify animal fancies. Zerdzer believes the system is kind of racist, but not once you get into court. That racists may target black people, but stalking one with a gun isn't premeditating anything, just keeping your racist options open without racist commitment. Zerdzer believes that people who want to see racists cry and piss themselves in fear for daring to be such garbage are racists. Zerdzer has problems with induction and deduction that will take time and experience to hammer out, if they are so dedicated. Insulting zerdzer wont bring that about.

Unless we make it funny in accordance with the Mister Burns Act of Last Thursday.

As long as he keeps dropping bombs like "i'm not racist at all," Hooker will be there to troll him.

my feelings don't really have anything to do with what i think about any of this. i haven't actually contradicted myself once. i'm just holding an opinion that isn't extreme and racially charged, like most people who heard about this case.

i never once said i agreed with anything zimmerman did, and i have said repeatedly the reason he got off was mainly because of the shitty job the prosecution did and the poorly written laws of florida. my main point this whole time has been that it's those things we should be talking about, not "hurr the system is racist, racism everywhere".

and yeah, the general understanding is that a "racist" is a person who hates other races/feels their own race is superior. except, the bar for being a racist is way lower than that. a racist is also a person who factors race into their judgements of anything concerning people. whether they are a white supremacist, black nationalist. even thinking about past injustices against a race, or "privilege" that race has supposedly had. it's all racist. you can think of a "racist" as garbage and hate them all you want, but if you fit the description above, you are also racist. i'm thinking it'd be much better if nobody thought about race at all, and ironically, i get called a racist for it, by the people who supposedly hate racists. funny how that works

Funny how it works that people who claim to hate racists and think you are saying racist things hate you. This is a profound insight that I will definitely meditate on lat... oh, wait, you're an idiot.

You could also look up racism in a dictionary. I just checked Oxford and Merriam-Webster and neither has your definition. I tried to look up General Understanding, but maybe that dictionary is out of print?

Jesus, Hooker, you're not even smart.

Zerdzer you basically put your fingers in your ear and are unwavering in your dumb opinions, despite everything being contrary to them. That is why people are being annoyed by you. And stop the whole bullshit persecuted "why me i never did anything wrong :(" thing.

I'm not? I've been lying on my resume, then.

Zerzer, do you have a job? How do you troll poetv and the poe page all the time, for any reason, all day long? What do you do (or not do) that you can devote time to this on the scale that you do?

Not a very good tag, "the kind of people who ruin goatees for everyone" would be better.

they're the obese hitlers of goatees

Those aren't goatees, those are bloatees.

Thank you, I'll be here all week!

SolRo, I don't know you personally, but you seem like a fine person. Please get rid of your goatee.

manatees

I had a goatee for a few months in college and it turned out to be the most embarrassing year and a half of my life for everyone involved. Goatees are evil.

yeah hardly anybody is caring about the NSA leak because of the way the media cooked this shit up

Yeah, hardly anyone is caring about the wildfires, the heat wave, global warming, drone strikes, the coup in Egypt, Texas passing laws restricting abortion, the Detroit bankruptcy, regulation violations at the fertilizer plant that exploded, and the San Diego Comic Con because of the way the media cooked this shit up.

Wait, you mean you can't have attention paid to more than one issue at a time? Where did that rule come from?

thanks, it certainly had the desired effect

so now poetv regulars are no better than common trolls? ok

If this were 2010 I'd be tagged in this.

How dare you compare my common trollness to... poetv regulars...

GMork, in all the times I trolled you, you never had an argument as bad as zerdzer's. You always read the links provided and discussed them, and you actually listened. Don't do this to yourself.

Zerdzer has joined the esteemed ranks of Cena_mark, Caminante and Ryanowens

Hey now, Caminante might be a pedophile and a perv, but he's no Zerdzer.

Fuck all of you, Caminante is fucking hilarious. Same goes with Cena. I'm pretty sure in both cases their poe personalities are hammed up. And awesome.

Lets get one thing straight, zimmerman was wrong wrong wrong.

Lets also get another thing straight:

the verdict was sound.

This proves two things:

-Lawfulness and morality are totally different concepts

-Florida has some fucking stupid laws

Even Texas' 'stand your ground' would not have applied here, most likely rendering a different verdict. That's right, I am positing that texas would let a black man go free in a situation where florida would not. How's that for fucked?

gmork following the poetv troll path, starting with crazytalk, slowly growing more reasonable

i said something that rubbed people the wrong way, so they got all pissy and now everybody is calling me a racist (for some reason they can't articulate).

nobody can clearly define what is wrong with my statements, but they have generally bad feelings about me, and that's good enough excuse for them to start being complete assholes i guess

Lie.

being on PoETV is the main excuse to be a complete asshole, get it right.

your statement about PoETV isn't funny or cool, solro

i never said anything rude or personally attacked anybody, but i got called all sorts of names for having a different opinion.

that's what people do when they are too lazy to discuss a position that they disagree with

bingo

ZERDER GMORK SOLRO 3X COMBO!

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