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Old_Zircon - 2014-01-15

Multipart is apparently broken forever, here's part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMi-N5exqD4


SteamPoweredKleenex - 2014-01-15

This guy just doesn't understand the difference between historical chronicle and entertainment. I wonder if he'd be shocked to discover the historical inaccuracies of the tales the ancient Greeks told themselves?

The only people who think this kind of thing is a documentary are those that watch the History Channel thinking they're absorbing actual history.


EvilHomer - 2014-01-15

Well, there's also a difference between historically plausible entertainment and outright crap, but I'll try not to press the point, because I understand where you're coming from and part of me still empathizes with you. My parents were stuffy British academics, and all their friends were stuffy British academics too, so I was subjected to this sort of thing on a regular basis. It really took a lot of the fun out of being a kid. I can still remember the way they denounced "Gangs of New York"; honestly, the explanation for why that movie was garbage went on for longer than the movie itself did.

Seriously, though. Oranges? Bondage straps? Braziers next to tent walls? To say nothing of the "Byzantine silk-trade" line that Lloyd mentions in a different video - my God, is that one a facepalm.


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2014-01-15

Evilhomer! I believe in our current milieu one must divide art into "shit" and "actually trying" categories and judge accordingly.
For example 'the avengers' was a roller-coaster-esque romp but compare it to 'bicycle thieves', a film made over a half a century earlier, and it seems pathetic.
I think the market reflects this duality as nowadays films, music, computer games, and so on, will either be shat out of a brute force production line type process for purposes of turning a profit or actually made by people who want to make good stuff.


Old_Zircon - 2014-01-15

He understands, he just doesn't care.

Plus all the movies he complains about look abysmal.


EvilHomer - 2014-01-15

Yes yes, Mr Cat, but even "shit" can be historically plausible. Let's say you hire me to make a movie about dinosaurs. Any dinosaurs will do; market research has suggested that dinosaurs will be a hot item next year, and we just need something on the cheap so we can cash in on it.

Now I could make a dumb movie about dinosaurs who stomp about in forests and eat each other. Or I could make a dumb movie about dinosaurs who stomp about in forests and eat each other *while wearing bowler hats, for some reason*. The bowler hats are a conscious choice. I don't HAVE to make a shit movie that includes absurdly a-historical scenes of dinosaurs wearing bowler hats. That's on me, it's entirely my fault.


Bort - 2014-01-15

QWANTZ DOT COM: THE MOVIE


Mr. Purple Cat Esq. - 2014-01-15

Lindybeige seems like an ok dude. Also he does *actually* seem to retain much knowledge about historical thingies. I wonder if I could actually hold a conversation with him without punching him in the face?


Old_Zircon - 2014-01-15

Probably, he seems completely self aware about this stuff, just not in the usual awful ways self-awareness tends to manifest on Youtube.


Old_Zircon - 2014-01-15

I genuinely enjoy most of his videos, he's like the Potholer54 of swords.


Bort - 2014-01-16

Is he actually complaining that the actress isn't pretty enough to be Helen of Troy? There is a technical problem there, namely, if they DID cast an actress adequate to the part, it would cause traffic jams as millions of drivers would converge on Hollywood to try to abduct her.

It's like at the end of "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey", where Bill and Ted are playing their song that brings world peace -- they couldn't actually play the song in the movie lest they actually bring world peace, so instead they played a song by Kiss.


EvilHomer - 2014-01-16

If I understood correctly, he approved of the actress playing Helen of Troy. The makeup comment was meant to be positive, contrasting her tasteful makeup situation to the anachronistically slathered whores you usually see playing Helen. The only negative on the HWoww front, that I picked up on, was how the filmmakers made no effort whatsoever to age her for the later part of the film.


Old_Zircon - 2014-01-16

That's what I got out of it, too.


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