It pretty much covers that with the Duff Beer joke. What's important to remember is some of the most memorable Simpsons jokes are themselves takes on movies like The Godfather, The Graduate.. you name it, if you're like me anyway you probably saw the Simpsons do a little homage to it, seeing the original years later and being like "oh yeah! Now I get it."

The later Family Guys, to me anyway, seem more creative (see rant below) than the later Simpsons allows itself to be.

Or to put it into a sentence: The Simpsons taught me who Gore Vidal was, and Family Guy had Gore Vidal put a hotdog in his mouth.

The Simpsons occasionally did movie parodies, with actual jokes added. Family Guy lifts entire scenes from movies on a near-constant basis, and either adds no joke at all (it's funny because now Peter is Han Solo! LAUGH.) or ends the bit with someone vomiting everywhere. It's not quite the same thing.

Also Marge's Gore Vidal joke was funnier. "Girls, Lisa! Boys kiss girls!"

The only time the Simpsons ever really got to me was in the episode where Bart shoplifts and the relationship between he and Marge just deteriorates. That episode was so well done.

Family Guy doesn't strike me as moving and the fact they included another tasteless and unfunny rape joke makes me hate this.

Bob's Burgers is so much better than either of the two now. The writing is for some reason just so much more realistic and easier to relate to. As far as moving moments go, Louise being comforted on the slide after she was afraid of losing her dad to Gene on account of being a girl, and Tina's many vulnerable moments (like being blackmailed by a more popular girl into disobeying her parents) show an understanding for empathy and quirkiness that the Simpsons and Family Guy are too over the top to really emulate now.

I love Bob's Burgers. You're certainly right about it being more human than The Simpsons and Family Guy, and its different from those other shows by actually being funny.

Two animated shows way past their primes doing a crossover for the sake of getting attention.

Family Guy had a prime?

Well I'll be... so you're a Family Guy fan. Huh.

What's your favorite episode?

I stopped watching Family Guy after Peter murdered Quagmire's cat. It's funny, because at the time, I didn't think I was all that offended, but I just haven't been able to get it up to watch since then.

I'll probably watch this, though.

I'm not a fan but it's kind of like some internet meme that has gotten old and all of a sudden you're like "oh it's still there. That was kinda funny.." I'll admit I was really high, but the one where they're trapped in the vault is pretty outstanding. No cutaway jokes, no real jokes actually. Read the synopsis on wikipedia or something but it was then that I realized that these writers are pretty fucking smart, whether I like the rest of the show or not.

Plus I was a big fan of Larry and Steve from the What a Cartoon show, back when that was a thing, so when Family Guy first started I was like "ooh that's Larry and Steve." When FG first got cancelled people were up in arms about it. When it was back it worked its way down a spiral not unlike the Simpsons. Both have the capacity to get out of it.

I think it's fair to view both The Simpsons and Family Guy as institutions and less as sitcoms. I've mentioned it before, but my favorite stuff is King Star King, Rick and Morty, (everything until the 4th forgettable season of) Superjail, Adventure Time.. I could go on. I've mentioned it before that it sucks that a show like Xavier could get a shitty time slot due to Family Guy's very existence, but Family Guy pays for the ads that allow shows like those to get financed. Is it a perfect symbiosis? Absolutely not, but it's kind of necessary, like buying a snake: you have to feed mice to it or else it will die. If you love mice so much, don't buy a fucking snake. Or buy a dozen and keep one or two of them as pets and those shows are Rick and Morty, King Star King. For whatever reason that's the best analogy I can come up with.

I looked into that. The whole episode was written by the Family Guy staff.
Again this looks like shit, however, they might be doing a Simpsons/Futurama crossover. That would rock.

The whole thing about the way they write rape jokes is that there is no affinity for women whatsoever in them. It's a purely "isn't it shocking that we are saying the word rape!" mentality. There's no indication in the humor of "I hate rape and it's so terrible I have to joke about it" that McFarlane would have us believe are his intentions.

The way they included a rape joke here really, really ruins the Simpsons for me.

At least the rape joke in here can be read as a joke about rape jokes and not a rape joke itself. That doesn't make it good, of course, but at least it's not as reprehensible as they usually get.

I'd say any cartoon fan who looks down on any other cartoon fan based only on what they like is the lowest of the low, but that's just me.

But that's okay. One day you'll find a more constructive way of releasing all that pent up Sailor frustration.

I am not sure if it is worse than Ctl Alt Delete but they are both pretty down there.

Bob's Burgers deserves a much better crossover than this. Like maybe a crossover with My Little Pony!

There is a Bob's Burgers/ Archer crossover, yes? I haven't seen, but I heard it's a thing.

Season 3 (?) of Archer starts out with Archer having amnesia and working at a diner with a wife and kids. It's a great episode.

Bob's Burgers had the brony episode. Probably not what you had in mind, but it was pretty good.

oh, and stars were for evil, obviously. because fuck both of these shows, but especially Family Guy.

Here you go.

http://fav.me/d7sn66j

How the internet was won.

I'm right there with you.

For the preview image on the Youtube video that you see if you access it through the Guardian page (second link I gave), why do all the characters look so "off-model"? Particularly Lois, although I actually like the expression she has in a "weird Naruto face freeze-frame kind of way".

Did Seth MacFarlane draw the preview image himself? Maybe the promo image artists for both shows "switched sides" for that shot?