Yes, THAT GUY, this is my new girlfriend. Because we're in the fourth grade.

Are you going to MARRY her?!

Well played, Homer

Johnny and Lindsey sittin' in a tree!
K-I-S-S-I-N-G!

OK, that is enough you kids, leave Johnny alone. He has the right to like anyone he wants and so do you.

"No, *I* LOVE *YOU* more!"

Anyway her mugging is adorable. I knew it'd be somebody pretty special to replace Catie....

As if.

Well, In my opinion there has never been , nor can there ever be, anything more hollow or vapid than establishing your attitude of dismissive superiority by beginning your posts with laugh "LOL". Zounds, do you go through life that way, using a fake laugh to establish your intellectual dominance? People must laugh at you behind your back.

I like Kesha because she is basically some innocent mini hippy who wants to spread a bunch of joy in the world, so bless her trashy little heart.

I like Katy Perry and I don't need an excuse why.

I enjoyed this video, but I don't agree with the chick's concept of musicianship. Being able to sing all that show-offy Mariah Carey bullshit (like the early Gaga clip) doesn't make you a better singer than, say, Frank Sinatra, who interpreted the lyric and was a master of phrasing. (Full disclosure, I don't have a firm grip on what I mean by that.)

I like whatever the fuck I like. You get older, and you are who are. The music isn't a part of your identity the way it was when you're a kid. My 20 year old self would be horrified to catch me watching the video to Taylor Swift's "Shake it Off", but I'm just as horrified at some of the shit he used to pull, so fuck that little bastard. Rebecca Black's Friday, with its crude production and blank verse lyrics, reminded me of my punk roots. I'm serious.

And I do like Kesha. She's funny and her songs are catchy. I think ROUS has a good take on her. There's something authentic about her. She used to have a blog that really looked like a blog, with homemade looking videos from her, and she posted fan videos from her songs. Her record company actually took down some of the videos for using her own music, no shit! I found that tremendously endearing.

My favorite Ke$ha song. She's quite good with her voice in this, even if there is some autotuning. She takes it down low, and her voice become a blunt instrument. Or maybe it's in production, but it's still pretty good.

http://youtu.be/edP0L6LQzZE

Don't get me started on Miley Cyrus, who inexplicably was not mentioned. She's the best of the bunch if she survives this traditional period without going full Lohan. Yeah, I know, second worst Nirvana cover ever.

I think Kesha would be better as a jugalette. Am eagerly awaiting her transformation. And Miley, I like her, too. I'm not much into her music, but short-haired crazy girls? Oh yes please!

As far as the rest of it goes, you have terrible taste, Mr Holmes, and your age is not an excuse.

One of my IRL friends got really into Kesha a few years back. He was a big Dream Theater/ SoilWork fan, so I had no idea why he jumped on the Kesha ship. At first I assumed it was to help him pick up impressionable barely-legals at the community college he was attending, but he kept listening to her even after his infant son moved in and he dropped out of school to play Call of Duty full-time. So maybe there is something to her...?

Of course my age isn't an excuse. My age is why I don't need an excuse. But it's not like this is the sum total of things I like. We're talking about girl pop singers.

Miley Cyrus may not be crazy. We're so used to seeing child stars go crazy that we're all expecting that, but I think what she's doing now is very methodically making sure everybody forgets all about Hanna Montana. When I say "Miley Cyrus", you don't think Disneyanymore, do you?

She's got a powerful voice and a great raw live performance style. Her last video got a half billion views and she's just 21. It'll be interesting to see where she goes from here.

I learned today that Ke$ha's vagina was haunted and she had to have it exorcised.

True fact: google it.

Saying you don't need an excuse IS an excuse, Mr Holmes. If you didn't need an excuse, you wouldn't even bother making one; the fact that you feel the need to excuse your behavior indicates that you are fully aware of the urgent necessity of said excuses.

Homer, what is this obvious compulsion to be the Dennis the Menace to my Mr. Wilson?

Zounds, LOL doesn't indicate "intellectual dominance". Jesus Christ. Where'd you learn that? It equates to a laugh. That's it. And yes, when I encounter ridiculous shit, I do sometimes start with a laugh. Because when you encounter the absurd you have to either laugh or cry. And frankly, I'm not going to spill tears because of some moron's relationship with music.

So you really did laugh out loud? There was nothing contrived or fake about that?

I like Kesha cause she does things to my pants

Do you not know how the hopper works, or is that a rhetorical question?

The upcoming generation of young women are the only thing that gives me hope for the world. I think we've been raising our girls to live in the 21 century because we want them to be strong, and we've been raising our boys to live in the 20th century because we want them to be strong.

This has left the young men completely unable to deal with the current century, especially the current generation of young women, so we've got a new backlash against feminism. That's the lamest, most doomed response possible to the challenge. These young women are going to eat these boys for breakfast.

Hooker seems to me like a fairly dull fellow with no imagination, so he probably thinks I want to fuck all these young women, but for the first time in my life, I really don't, and that's kind of wonderful. Once in a Lowe's, a beautiful young employee was flirting outrageously with me. I don't know if she has some kind of personality disorder or what, but it was just humiliating. Maybe the old guys usually love it, but they must be lacking in self awareness. I don't need to think of myself that way anymore. I'm no longer on the market.

Sounds like you spend too much time on the Internet.

So what you're saying then, Mr Holmes, is that all the younger guys today are idiots who don't know how to handle the latest crop of nubile young HBs.

If modern young men are not worthy of modern young women, then I suppose that means they should be looking for the companionship of older, wiser, more feminist-friendly gentlemen...?

Wow, Homer, total reading fail.

I would love to see a documentary of JHMF's life, specifically the journey from his 30s onward where he keeps trying to hang around the college/indie scene for the chicks and it gets creepier and creepier the greyer he gets. We get to see the entire transition from the guy who graduated years ago still hanging around, to Donald Sutherland from Animal House, to PZ Myers, to Youtube personality super fan.

Yeah, yeah, I heard you, you're NOT interested in having sex with them. NOT interested.

That's why I said "companionship", and not some less-beta turn of phrase, like "furious dickings from a personal sex-tyrannosaurus". These girls will seek you out as a father figure. A big daddy whom they can turn to whenever they need something. Like advice about their boyfriends, a steamy shower, or a spanking, when they've been naughty.

I think you have to know how incredibly stupid that sounds. I don't need to discuss this with you.

Incidentally, Kesha is the exception. Would totally bang Kesha. Don't know why she'd want to, but I wouldn't ask.

Nobody understands 21st century culture better than a guy born in the 60s that has less experience with 21st century culture than everyone he talks to about it on the Internet.

I was born in 1958. Do you really go through life like this, disapproving of people's taste in youtube videos and scolding them over humorous references to Citizen Kane. Were you born in the 1800s?

>>I would love to see a documentary of JHMF's life, specifically the journey from his 30s onward where he keeps trying to hang around the college/indie scene for the chicks and it gets creepier and creepier the greyer he gets.

Really? Is that your idea of a good movie?

Me, I'm just looking forward to once again completely forgetting about Nominal's existence until reading his next stupid comment. By the time you're reading this, I will have already be thinking about something much more interesting.

JHM thank you for submitting this. This whole thread has given me much joy. 5 stars.

Also- Kesha is the *one* you'd bang? Good grief. 5 for evil.

Maybe Kiesza....

The latter's actually good at making pop music.

You're welcome.

>>Nobody understands 21st century culture better than a guy born in the 60s that has less experience with 21st century culture than everyone he talks to about it on the Internet.

Wait, what?

You understand that, so far, I've been alive for the entire 21st century, right?

Okay, first of all, what teen girls are you referring to? Kesha is 27, Miley Cyrus is 21, and according to her IMDB page, in two weeks, Lindsey Ellis (the Nostalgia Chick) turns 30.

You think it's creepy, don't you? "Creepy" is an adjective meaning "causing an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease." If I can do that with an innocent discussion of pop music and feminism... Well, I just think that's awesome! That's why I revel in this discussion whenever it comes up.

If you must know, my feelings toward the women in media I enjoy (and they're not all young. Don't get me started on Sigourney Weaver or Susan Sarendon) has less to do with desire than with identification. They represent something in me. I don't know what it means, but I like it, and I don't give a damn bout a bad reputation.

http://youtu.be/2JfjO1PZxXc

It's creepy how familiar JHM is with these women's ages.

I think it's delightful that I can cause an unpleasant feeling of fear and unease in you by knowing how to use a search engine.

I did like the observation that it's easier to sing along to a poor singer than a really good one; that was pretty sharp.

I picked this video because I thought you guys would enjoy the extra snark. I have to say it, I'm completely convinced that you guys are underestimating her because she's a chick. Lindsey Ellis is the smartest critic I know, way smarter than The Nostalgia critic, or any mainstream media critic I can think of since Ebert died. (Okay, I can't really think of any) In this video she sums up fifteen years of pop music and makes it sound pretty cohesive, comments on the careers of maybe a dozen popstars along the way, and you guys talk about how she's not saying anything? I find this opinion easy to dismiss.

Catie Wayne was never a fetish, but she certainly was an obsession. I was as big a fan of Catie Wayne as I ever was of anything. She was my introduction into internet psychopolitics and 21st century feminism, and she's far more talented and intelligent than most people imagine. I think she's born to be an internet star the way Mary Pickford was born to be a star of silent movies. She introduced me into the possibilities of the new media, and got me thinking of youtube as an art form.

But the value of such revelations is lost if you don't move beyond them. I can certainly see why people thought it was creepy. It didn't seem that way to me, but if I hadn't moved on to other interests, it would have been very very sad. Obviously, I'm a very different person, and I need to do something different. I got nothing to do with the rest of my life than to become some kind of artist, even if it's the bad kind.

I think Catie may feel like she's in a slump right now. Discovery pulled the plug on her MLP project, and now she's doing the same announcer thing over and over. She likes to do new things. Still, it sure beats her old job in retail. I think she's going to be doing something surprising one day soon,. and I hope to be alive to see it.