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Desc:'We did a confrontational speak-out last night at a restaurant in Berkeley! Disrupt speciesism'.
Category:Religious, Stunts
Tags:Protest, CRINGE, berkeley, Vegan, tilting at windmills
Submitted:tgn1412
Date:03/10/15
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Comment count is 49
Gmork - 2015-03-10
Someone just needs to fucking clothesline him.
SixDigitDebt - 2015-03-10
Deploy the bouncer.

Change - 2015-03-10
there would be fewer public assholes if people would just kick each other's asses once in a while

Old_Zircon - 2015-03-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdIARGRMrk4

Gmork - 2015-03-11
Zircon spotted the reference!

Binro the Heretic - 2015-03-10
I want a thing that projects someone's own speech back at them with a slight delay so their brain gets all confused and they end up going, "Over one trillion! Thadisdenungerfomanimanima..."
Gmork - 2015-03-10
When I get an echo in my headset, it makes it impossible to talk.

I think this would work.

ashtar. - 2015-03-10
a punch to the throat also works

SteamPoweredKleenex - 2015-03-10
That device exists:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/120583-new-speech-jamming -gun-hints-at-dystopian-big-brother-future

Binro the Heretic - 2015-03-10
HA! Does it actually work or is it still being developed?

I remembered someone talking about making such devices a while back. They were inspired by the way some singers have to wear sound-cancelling earbuds when they sing the national anthem at a stadium because of the slight delay in the public address system. A lot of people end up singing "Oh say can you seeeee by the dawnzurlilylied whuwhusso prowowdly..."

And I remember a local radio contest where contestants had to wear headphones and recite some written promo for the station. Because of an almost imperceptible delay between what they said and what they heard, they ended up sounding like drunks with a stutter.

urbanelf - 2015-03-10
They should bring a cow into the restaurant and kill it to show us how horrible it is.

And then, because we don't want to be wasteful, we could eat the cow and cry about how sad and delicious it is.
Binro the Heretic - 2015-03-10
You can't just kill a cow and eat it!

Beef has to age properly!

urbanelf - 2015-03-10
It has plenty of time to age once I've pooped it into my toilet.

Binro the Heretic - 2015-03-10
Enjoy your tough odd-flavored steak, then.

The Mothership - 2015-03-10
But what if one would eat dogs and cats, what then smartypants?
Xenocide - 2015-03-10
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A DELICOUS CAT.

infinite zest - 2015-03-10
I've made that argument too, and have said that once we start farming humans for human (and animal) consumption, then I'll start eating meat again. As a vegan I don't disagree with the guy, but this isn't the way to do it. It's like people who collect vinyl. It's hard to think about all the natural resources it takes to make a record and the carbon footprint. But I don't see people going into record stores and doing stuff like this.

memedumpster - 2015-03-10
"Okay, Cletus, it's your turn to slop the tigers" will never be spoken in America. We only eat helpless life, like plants and the 1% of animals so dumb we can catch and keep them.

Old_Zircon - 2015-03-10
The amount of resources that go into that vinyl are basically zero, insofar as it was made decades ago and they have already been consumed and will stay consumed whether I get pleasure out of it or some jackoff throws it in a landfill, so I opt for the former.

Serious question, though, if a leather jacket will stay in basically new condition for 40+ years is that not arguably more ethical than buying some kind of petroleum based synthetic blend that will fall apart in a couple of winters? Because good luck fining a coat that's a natural fiber AND warm and isn't wool (since wool is also not vegan). Not trying to be a dick, it's an issue I've thought about for a long time.

Related, what about the radical vegans who came in to the thrift store where I worked a long time ago and slashed up a bunch of 19th century fur coats? I know they "perpetuate fur culture" or whatever but those minks died a hundred years ago and the only thing of value that came from their deaths was those functional garments that were destroyed. On top of the fact that they for all intents and purposes robbed a nonprofit organization that was providing care and social support to HIV patients of over 0. I really can't see anything other than ignorance and reactionary ideology in a gesture like that.

Or what about when a friend of mine was living in a cooperative house and one of the members was a radical vegan who refused to allow the house to compost because "worms would not naturally be living in a compost bin in the basement ergo it is cruelty to animals."

I've got no love for the meat industry and even my very modest meat consumption is something I'm conflicted about (plus it's kind of gross) but so far I haven't seen anything to convince me that ideological veganism is any better.

A very disproportionate number of vegans I've met have diagnosed eating disorders, to. Every diagnosed male anorexic I've known was a strict vegan.

DEEP THOUGHTS

Old_Zircon - 2015-03-10
I'm sure it goes without saying that I'm not attacking your veganism specifically, IZ, but the vocal, recationary fringe represented by this video.

Nominal - 2015-03-10
"Fighting X culture" activism never solves more harm than it causes.

Remember when Berkeley protested meaningful injustices?

Potrod - 2015-03-10
They still release new vinyl because there's still demand for new vinyl, and the resources that go into new vinyl are obviously not zero, so that's a silly thing to say. It's a small niche market without much of an impact, I'm just saying.

The Mothership - 2015-03-10
Xenocide's comment made me laugh.

Monkey Napoleon - 2015-03-11
People say this as kind of a troll or a jokey thing all the time, but ideological veganism is still just a more selective form of speciesism. People don't see it that way because plants don't think in the same sense we do, but neither do cows or chickens or pigs. The obvious counter to this argument is that we don't *need* to eat meat. My counter-counter is that we don't *need* to bear children or to continue living, but we do because we prefer it that way.

I guess what I'm saying is that it has always seemed kind of an arbitrary line to draw to me, which wouldn't bother me at all except nobody is willing to admit it.

infinite zest - 2015-03-11
Yeah I hope this guy gets a steak in his face. On my brother's birthday we went to this fancy place (it's called Beast if you're curious) that is pretty much meat porn: like, the website has photoshoots of the two hot owners posing with meat carcasses. Anyway I guess nobody thought about me.. Whatever, it's not my birthday right? And the menu is a set one, no changes. So basically I'm panicking.. Like "shit.. A good 50 dollar meal that I can't eat?" So, embarrassed, I mentioned that I was vegan. And they were so cool! They ordered out from a nice vegan friendly restaurant and didn't charge (although what I had was probably cheaper, but still).. Anyway they could've laughed and judged me and told me I was wrong, and instead they did what humans do: be kind and respect one another even if they do things differently. Damn soy's made me a hippy

Scrimmjob - 2015-03-10
The best possible outcome would be for everyone at the restaurant to start pelting these people with steaks and chicken legs.
Xenocide - 2015-03-10
I like the part where he says the animals are being killed "right behind us." Because that's how restaurants work. They get a shipment of live cows every morning and the cows just kind of hang out until someone orders a steak.

Nominal - 2015-03-10
Would you like the lobster, sir?

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2015-03-10
Actually, something like that happened to me once. But I was in the middle of the Bolivian jungle at the time.

kamlem - 2015-03-10
I got to choose my own plump guinea pig from display cages at a restaurant in Peru.

Miss Henson's 6th grade class - 2015-03-10
Cui, if that's how it's spelled? I was offered some, but said no. They looked like chicken wings.

tgn1412 - 2015-03-10
redd.it/2yed06 has the accompanying /r/vegan thread

"Before, these people in the restaurant probably never considered animals. At least now, they are forced to. Now that it is on their mind, changing their mind is much easier in my opinion."


"so by bringing the issue of animal liberation to the forefront, we are keeping veganism a fringe element? gather humane-washes, read their menu. wealthy patrons go there to feel good about eating animals. i understand that this form of activism shocks you, it shocked me too. but if you truly believe in animal liberation, you should be willing to do this too."


"Some other major social justice issues went through phases with a lot of confrontation and speakouts. I'm glad MLK didn't take your advice on activism because he would then have had to cancel the march on Washington and scrap his vibrant speech there and instead concentrate only on "passive presentations of information"."
spikestoyiu - 2015-03-10
It's true. The civil rights movement really gained a lot of momentum when MLK stormed that Bob's Big Boy and gave everyone that what-for.

Xenocide - 2015-03-10
I've been eating mostly vegan for the last 18 months. I'm enjoying it, and it's really been great for my weight and cholesterol levels.

With that established, I'd really love to face-punch this guy. And then slowly, erotically eat a McRib in front of him.
urbanelf - 2015-03-10
You still look fat to me, buddy.

spikestoyiu - 2015-03-10
I know a few fat vegans. Or maybe they're more "doughy" than fat, but you get the idea.

Old_Zircon - 2015-03-10
I've known plenty of fat vegans and plenty of severely underweight vegans, but only a handful of healthy vegans. It's pretty challenging to actually maintain a healthy vegan diet in the USA.

Xenocide - 2015-03-10
I'll have you know that I now wash myself with a rag on a relatively smaller stick.

Mother_Puncher - 2015-03-10
Vegans always sound like they are about to faint.
memedumpster - 2015-03-10
Over 30,000. That is the number of humans who starve to death DAILY while this smug, brown, honkie smears the master race's white privilege on hapless diners all while still wearing his infant fucking baby fat.

Also, humans ate one another for hundreds of thousands of years, but this person is trash food and I wouldn't eat him if I were starving. Hell, i wouldn't even cut up his body and feed my fields with him because I'm sure this idiocy would anger the moon god and he'd kill my crops for such a whining sacrifice.

This is why we can't have civilization, fucking moon god angerers.
memedumpster - 2015-03-10
This person is so annoying I totally missed the pink shirt the first watch through. He's actually degrading the dignity of those who wear pink shirts, my god.
Raggamuffin - 2015-03-10
Hitting the meat industry right in its wheelhouse.
oddeye - 2015-03-10
I'd live to eat pigs that have roamed free in forests mist of their lives in some kind of giant pig farm but I can barely afford frozen sodium/saturated fat microwave meals.

Vegetables and shit also costs a fortune. Basically I am poor and will die younger, dickheads.
Jet Bin Fever - 2015-03-10
Well, I'm convinced!
bopeton - 2015-03-11
Isn't there a 90's song about this? "There's no food in your violence"
spikestoyiu - 2015-03-11
That song is full of important and timeless messages. It's how I learned Dave was on sale again.

BHWW - 2015-03-11
I myself can't stand any sort of smug, obsessive vegangelists come to spread to good word about not being a filthy meat-eater. This brand of veganism I've come, via various encounters over the years, to associate with obnoxious attempts to "convert" friends who soon become former-friends, and engage in clownish activism like this.

As for ex-friends, yes one of these and his wife had invited me and my GF at the time to go out to a restaurant with them once. They didn't tell us it was a vegan place and then when we saw the menus and went "What?" they went HAHAHHAAHAH we tricked you, we knew you wouldn't have come to a vegan restaurant if we just asked! I told them yes, I probably would have if you had just asked instead of trying to be all sneaky and rude about it, thanks.
Later on, they would ramp up their rude and haranguing attempts at veganelising to people in their social circles and I quickly decided for that and other reasons I wanted nothing more to do with them.

I also knew some people who had started a community garden and some of the more attention-whorish self-styled vegan activist types in the neighborhood were the worst about coming by and taking whatever they wanted while shitting on everything else and laughing at anybody who expected them to put in their fair share of the work to make the garden a success. One of these, a nasal-voiced cretin with pipe-cleaner thin arms, very publicly complained to the woman who had gotten the garden started about how she wasn’t growing anything in the garden that he wanted to eat - another showed up at her house and knocked on the door in order to whine at her about how she wasn't growing enough arugula or something.
FABIO - 2015-03-11
Most "clownish activist" types like that come from upper middle class families and are supported/spoiled by their parents. They forever act out their "fuck you mom and dad!" hissyfit against others with their smug condescending protesting while acting completely entitled to everything.

simon666 - 2015-03-11
"Clams Have Feelings Too (No They Don't)" by NOFX

Birds are dumb, 'cause small bird brains
But so are kids and old people
Some birds talk, most others sing
I don't see you eat a talking bird

Pigs smell bad, they roll in poo
But so do kids and elderly
I don't see you chop off an old man's feet
Put 'em in a mason jar and pickle them

No chowder for you, 'cause clams have feelings too
Actually they don't have central nervousness
No manhatten style, clams have the right to smile
Come to think about it, they don't have a face

They have no face, no place for ears
There's no clam eyes, to cry clam tears
No spinal cord, they must get bored
Might as well just put them out of misery

I don't beleive it's selfish
To eat defenceless shellfish

No chowder for you, clams have feelings too
It could happen to you, clams have feelings too
I don't think they do, clams have feelings too
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