I apparently have a passive-aggressive sarcasm and bitchiness fetish. This explains a lot about my life.

I'd quit being vegan and move to Australia just to go on a date with one of them.

Every Australian woman I've known (which is not too many but a few) has been unusually smart, funny and ridiculously attractive. Also one of them grew up in a circus.

oh man the sugar episode

https://youtu.be/8UZJRR8OHhY

is here

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=142617

Heh.. that's like every housemate I've had that eventually gets a partner that moves in. There's always something, like a crock pot, a juicer, etc. that is sort of a housewarming thing and is used exactly one time. I don't do much cooking at home because I'm vegan and don't necessarily like to use the same pans, and my job keeps me out of the house during meal-time anyway, so it's usually cheaper to get happy hour, and they still bitch at me for not cleaning the fucking kitchen, which is their mess, and is covered with meat! Like, if this keeps up, I'm going to get drunk enough to puke in the bathtub and bitch at them for not cleaning THAT up.

That being said, Kangaroo meat? Sounds interesting. Eventually I'm going to switch back to eating meat I think, but would like to eat only exotic animals like Kangaroos, Wallabees and other rodents of unusual size :)

Hey, IZ, as the resident vegan I'd be interested to hear your take on this:

Something about veganism that's always struck a weird chord with me is the tendency to replace animal products like wool, wax and sometimes leather with synthetics that are often petroleum based. To me, buying a USED (and preferably as old as possible) piece of leather or wool clothing, for example, that will last a lot longer than its synthetic counterpart is potentially more ethical than buying a short-lived, petroleum based synthetic. I never really see this discussed.

In a similar vein, as a woodworker I work almost exclusively with animal-derived protein glues (mostly hot hide glue) mainly because there are no synthetic equivalents that work as well (if there were I'd use them, because hide glue is a bit of a hassle in some ways) but also because it is a way to use waste material from the leather and meat industries that would exist whether it was made in to glue or not, and also a way to use just a bit less petroleum.

Also, it's a bit of a stretch to say the least, but petroleum and all products derive from it ARE technically animal products, since it's mostly plankton.

No disrespect intended, since even though I'm not vegan I do agree that industrial farming is pretty hard to justify ethically and respect the choice to avoid supporting it, but these are just a few inconsistencies I see in the more extreme forms of veganism I encounter (epitomized by a friend's housemate years ago who wouldn't allow her to start a worm composting box in their co-op house because it was inhumane t keep worms in a box) and I wondered what someone like you who is obviously on the rational end of the spectrum of vegans had to say about it.

Also, nearly all waste from hide glue goes straight into my houseplants as fertilizer, and the packaging is very minimal.