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Old_Zircon - 2015-04-08

I love the Zappa mix of that live recording of King Kong with John and Yoko that they renamed "Scumbag and released as their own track. In the Zappa mix you can hear all of the trash talk the Mothers are doing about Yoko, that was taken out of the Sometime In New York mix.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-08

I actually quite like both the Plastic Ono Band records, hers more than John's. I don't have any more contempt for Yoko than I do for any other art star, which is to say I have some contempt but mainly because the whole art stardom thing is fucking gross. But, I mean, at least shes not fucking Damien Hirst.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-08

This video is pretty shit, though, which is too bad, I like John Zorn well enough.


yogarfield - 2015-04-08

Saying "at least it's not Damien Hirst" is kind of like saying "at least my cock isn't being torn to shreds by fish hooks while simultaneously being diagnosed with soul cancer".


blue vein steel - 2015-04-08

John Zorn is cool, but fuck Yoko. Yes Damien Hirst is a hack, but he's contributed far more to culture than Yoko ever has.


Bus_Aint_Comin - 2015-04-09

Hirst's early work is some of the most powerful conceptual art i've ever seen, specifically "The Physical Impossibility Of Death In The Mind Of Someone Living".

Yoko Ono, while equally as well-thought-out, is a boring retread living off of her codependent manipulative relationship with a fallen genius with a heroin addiction, and should really have gone into seclusion in the nineties.


yogarfield - 2015-04-09

At his best Hirst is a glorified taxidermist who can't even do his own taxidermy. At his worst he's throwing global dot-painting scavenger hunts for the mega-rich.

Ono and Hirst have both posed with Bono, so there's your common thread of banality.

Brb, I'm gonna kill myself.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-09

Hirst is the platonic form of art as a commodity, which is why conceptual art is kind of dead right now. In terms of artistic merit, I mean, it's obviously not dead in terms of the marketplace since it's pretty much all about branding at this point, and even on that front it's taken a big hit in the last 5 years or so.

Conceptual art CAN be amazing but these days, at least from what I've seen, it rarely is, too much money has been poured in to it since the 60s.


Adham Nu'man - 2015-04-09

Could you find that Zappa recording you're talking about? I did a search on Youtube but I got a number of different/similar videos and I don't know which one you're talking about.


EvilHomer - 2015-04-09

Jesus, you stick ONE dead shark in an art gallery, and now everybody thinks you're a hack.


Oscar Wildcat - 2015-04-09

Art is like a shark. It has to keep moving forward or it will die.

Now, what we've got on our hands here, is a dead shark.


EvilHomer - 2015-04-09

There are two kinds of art: sheep and sharks. Any art that's a sheep is garbage. Which art is a sheep?

~ Excuse me, which is the art that people like to hug?

Gutsy question. You're a shark. Sharks are winners, and they don't look back because they have no necks. Necks are for sheep.

I'm proud to be the shepherd of this 'herd' of artistic-sharks.


Bus_Aint_Comin - 2015-04-10

calling hirst "a glorified taxidermist at best" is like calling jackson pollock "someone who works at a paint factory and has an inner ear disorder". whilst i would agree that most of his work has become irrelevant, you're not being quite fair.

conceptual art has certainly failed us more times than it has given us any lasting meaning. i don't know if anyone here has been to art school recently, but the legacy of conceptual art can be summed up as "excruciating".


EvilHomer - 2015-04-10

You know, I'd just like to go on record and say that _I liked_ Damien Hirst. That is why the Cutie Mark of my Pony OC, Faygo Dream, is a dead shark in a g-string. Faygo is a Stuckist, who were of course famously critical of Hirst's (initial) work, but nonetheless I felt it would be a fitting homage.


yogarfield - 2015-04-10

Agreed on "excruciating". Hirst is such a fucking insufferable cunt, and in his case I don't think you have to divorce the artist from the art because his personality and celebrity are so entangled with his art.


and Mooooom! Uncle Homie is drinking again!


Hooker - 2015-04-08

She couldn't have lived in Hiroshima as a teenager?


misterbuns - 2015-04-08

haha


Binro the Heretic - 2015-04-08

AGH! FUCK! FUCK! FUCK!

THIS IS SOMETHING THE CIA WOULD MAKE YOU LISTEN TO FOR BREAKING YOUR WILL!


The Mothership - 2015-04-08

I'll have what she's having.


Scrimmjob - 2015-04-09

A violent anal probing?


Spaceman Africa - 2015-04-08

better than the beatles


misterbuns - 2015-04-09

again?


Potrod - 2015-04-09

He gets cooler each time he repeats it.


Spaceman Africa - 2015-04-09

;)


memedumpster - 2015-04-08

I unsashamedly love this. John Zorn and Sun Ra are the only "stairwell collision" jazz I like, and I love them. With the Oko-ness added in it's like every Alejandro Jodorowski movie injected straight into your eyes at once. I see piles of dead rabbits, fire, hippos in palaces, people digging elephants out of caskets, and the devil.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-09

""stairwell collision" jazz " doesn't even vaguely encapsulate Sun Ra, though. Maybe parts of a couple of his albums.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-09

Same with John Zorn, really, although he doesn't get me like Sun Ra does.


Old_Zircon - 2015-04-09

Yoko, on the other hand, can do exactly one thing musically and frankly isn't that good at it at all.


At its best it's like Inuit throat singing minus all cultural context and skill, but plus roughly five hundred million dollars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFjVbwgU-k


memedumpster - 2015-04-09

I have failed you, Music Master, by liking something, yet again.

arf arf arf bark bark bark bark arf arf arf!

This is why Yoko sings like this, she knows music critics only communicate in animals noises. It's her critique of the common audience.

And fuck you for trying to take Sun Ra away from me.


EvilHomer - 2015-04-09

How did you go from "music critics" to "common audience"? Which is it, memedumpster? Which does she hate? Or does she hate everyone equally - which actually wouldn't surprise me, the snobby old hipster.


yogarfield - 2015-04-10

All hail Sun Ra. Hometown hero.


Jet Bin Fever - 2015-04-08

This is really lazy.


Oktay - 2015-04-08

An out of bowel experience.


spicediver - 2015-04-09

Well the YT commentary is brutal and some of it quite hilarious. But is it art?


chumbucket - 2015-04-09

Trolling Beatles fanatics for profit for decades. She's a genius.


dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-04-09

What's the matter? Too DEEP for you?


Void 71 - 2015-04-09

These noises gave John Lennon a boner.


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