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yogarfield - 2015-05-02

i lost it at "interrogative". how much do atc guys get paid? take whatever sum and double it, they deserve it.


Gmork - 2015-05-02

It's kind of important to be very clear and not mumble, regardless of language differences. Then again, one person was speaking their native language and the other wasn't.

What's the standard protocol for language interactions for ATCs? Is English the standard? Did we (USA) force everybody in the world to use English for ATCs? Is there a situation where a heavily southern-accented ATC from the US must know basic chinese in order to accomodate them as well?

Genuinely curious about the dynamics. I'm kind of amazed more planes don't fly into each other, even with all the room.


Gmork - 2015-05-02

I'm assuming whoever is receiving a plane is the standard language for ATC interactions, not the departure side. So that stands to reason ATCs in texas must be multilingual. I wonder if we sound as bad to them.

I would like to think our clear, staccato English would benefit most countries trying to understand us, but it could be wishful thinking.


simon666 - 2015-05-02

Found the following on a airline nerd web site. It appears English the universal ATC language, but the local language is also spoken. For instance, Spanish is spoken in Mexico, but English is used when pilots don't speak Spanish.

ICAO defines this:

"In which languages does a licence holder need to demonstrate proficiency?"
Amendment 164 to Annex 1 has introduced strengthened language proficiency requirements for flight crew members and air traffic controllers. The language proficiency requirements apply to any language used for radiotelephony communications in international operations. Therefore, pilots on international flights shall demonstrate language proficiency in either English or the language used by the station on the ground. Controllers working on stations serving designated airports and routes used by international air services shall demonstrate language proficiency in English as well as in any other language(s) used by the station on the ground.

http://www.icao.int/icao/en/trivia/peltrgFAQ.htm#20


Unmerciful Crushing Force - 2015-05-03

Thanks for that Simon. What is interesting is when anime are trying to make a stab for "realism," scenes of any airport are almost always done in (heavily accented) English even at a domestic airport and even when flying domestic in Vietnam and Spain, I heard a lot of English from the pilot side. So I just figured that all air communication for international flights was done in English, much how Maritime is.


takewithfood - 2015-05-02

Cartwright!


hammsangwich - 2015-05-02

Can anyone find a recording of Air India landing in the US? I want to see if they do the needful.


Kabbage - 2015-05-03

Needs "Idiot Control Now" tag


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