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Lurchi - 2015-05-05

story:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/05/04/failed-christian-shoe -promoter-makes-anti-gay-first-person-shooter/


infinite zest - 2015-05-05

Unsurprisingly, most of those links are down, but the facebook's still up. What's strange to me is how professional it's run, at least for a small indie game startup: I mean, she might not be a household name, but the plus size gal from All That is acting in that zombie game, which itself looks pretty well done, at least compared to this, which looks like Lethal Enforcers on the SNES. It just seems so weird to me that a company, regardless of beliefs, would release such a shit-quality title and not consider the consequences. Maybe it was sabotage? This is the sort of game that even I could probably make in an hour or two.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-05-05

Okay, who besides me immediately thought of Elmer Fudd singing "Kill the Wabbit"?


B. Weed - 2015-05-05

It's never just you.


Prickly Pete - 2015-05-05

Absolutely I did.


TeenerTot - 2015-05-06

Indeed.


yogarfield - 2015-05-07

yeah


EvilHomer - 2015-05-05

Postal 2 did it better, but it's a good effort.


infinite zest - 2015-05-05

I was going to mention Postal as well, because even though it's racist, homophobic, misogynistic and more, it's still praised, if nothing else for being a milemarker in game lexicon for what you can and can't do and say in a game. And, yeah. The point was to shock and offend, and I guess this is too, but it doesn't seem to go along with what's ostensibly Skaldic's mission statement.


EvilHomer - 2015-05-05

I'm glad this wasn't a game about feminism or the Prophet Muhammad, though, otherwise I might feel obliged to defend the creator against all the death threats he's been receiving.


EvilHomer - 2015-05-05

IZ - Postal 2 had a community mod that allowed you to play several of the games in the local video arcade, including a Columbine simulator, and a 'Kill the Faggots' minigame which penalized you for accidentally killing straights. In fact, it looks to me like the entire concept for this Steam Greenlight was lifted from the AW7 mod!

It's sad to think that, over a decade later, P2 is still hands down the best Anal Cunt-style shooting game on the market. :(


infinite zest - 2015-05-05

So this guy thinks he's Charlie Hebdo or something? I think we all remember Doom wads that did the same thing, or at least attempted to.


infinite zest - 2015-05-05

Oh. Our comments overlapped. I was just thinking about that, that if it's social commentary you want, maybe put it in a minigame. Remember when Stephen Colbert got in trouble for tweeting "Ching Chong Ding Dong" or whatever? Contextually it was a fail and his career recovered within a weekend. Putting in a subversive minigame is one thing, but why blow your wad, your career and possibly your life over something so stupid?


infinite zest - 2015-05-05

Or.. Colbert's tweet assistant (seriously who needs an assistant for tweeting?) because the joke got big laughs on the show itself, but out of context it's basically Cosmo Kramer calling the audience a bunch of niggers. One thing that pisses me off is how quickly we're willing to forgive those in the spotlight, but will (pardon my pun) crucify those who make really horrible decisions who are not. To this day I won't see a movie with Jonah Hill in it because he told a paparazzo to "fuck off faggot" or something along those lines. Then he's crying on the tonight show, "some of my friends are gay" it's all OK. Go see 22 Jump Street in theatres this week. I'm not defending this douchebag, but plenty of people will defend Gabe or Valve for not knowing how it got through.


EvilHomer - 2015-05-05

>>but why blow your wad, your career and possibly your life over something so stupid?


Dunno. Three possible explanations:

1. It's exactly what Lurchi's link says it is. Christianity has a long tradition of producing martyrs, and Mr Christ in Shoes Alone wouldn't be the first American to throw away his livelihood by supporting an unpopular, subversive idea.

2. He's playing by Oscar Wildcat rules (see - Bud Light rape and Peggy Olson)

3. The plan is not so much to be destroyed by the controversy, but to make a niche for himself within a small but fiercely devoted community. i.e. he's gambling on the Sarkeesian Effect.


Robin Kestrel - 2015-05-06

No Jonah Hill movies?


Cena_mark - 2015-05-06

Speaking of Sarkeesian, she shouldn't have any beef with this game since it doesn't feature violence against women.


infinite zest - 2015-05-06

I said it when I first heard the name and well before gamergate, that in a perfect world for Sarkeesian, we'd be able to torture gays and women the same way as we torture men as long as they're not NPCs and can be tortured by themselves.


Raggamuffin - 2015-05-05

"The game kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?"

YES, IT DOES.

I'm going to 5 star this for that little moment of clarity that went whizzing by Mr. Talks Over A Videogame's head like so many bullets past a leftward jogging homosexual.


Void 71 - 2015-05-05

Those flaming joggers might be closet Log Cabin Republicans who act really gay so their friends won't suspect that they voted for Mitt Romney.


Killer Joe - 2015-05-05

I know MY mind was changed.
I know this because I read "Gay Fag Homos" and laughed.


dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-05-05

"These people that think if you are even remotely homophobic, you are 'hateful' and a 'bigot,' and do everything they can to destroy you in every vicious way possible," Herman wrote. "So I decided to go down a path that most developers are afraid to go down: to piss these people off by making the most overly offensive game possible to these idiots to prove a point."

So what was the point being made? That you are, in fact, "hateful" and "a bigot" like the people you're bitching about accuse you of being? Talk about not thinking your plan through. Although considering your past business ventures it's pretty clear to me that you're just full of shit and wanted to grab some easy attention.

And yes, I know I'm typing this to a person who will never read it.


EvilHomer - 2015-05-05

I think the point was that the people he's bitching about are hateful and bigots, a theory which, sadly, seems to have been borne out.


Xenocide - 2015-05-05

I think he's coming from the 4chan/Gamergate "I made someone upset, that means I win" school of debate.


dairyqueenlatifah - 2015-05-05

Well that is a valid point to be made, this is a pretty lousy way to make it though.

It's like saying black people are bigots for calling the KKK racist.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-05-07

Prejudice is a universal human weakness. People who respond to every little slip by going for blood are fueling denial, derailing the conversation and slowingu progress.

But I don't see how this addresses that. I think this faggot is just trolling for for attention to boost his career.


Xenocide - 2015-05-05

This guy missed a golden opportunity to grow his business by making a game where you level up by collecting Christian shoes.


Doomstein - 2015-05-05

There's still time. I see both themes as potentially overlapping markets. Like "RapeLay" and "The Surgeon Simulator".


Caminante Nocturno - 2015-05-05

This game is a joke, and the punchline is anyone who gets upset at it.


Shoebox Joe - 2015-05-05

I'm glad everyone thinks like you.


Accidie - 2015-05-05

He's right.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-05-06

That's exactly what it is, and what makes it so horrible. People are beaten, people are terrorized, people are murdered. For realsies. It's not an abstract thing, but people who want to make a joke of the fear, the rage, and the loss that people experience aren't hate criminals. They're just garden variety, run of the mill horrible people. We already got enough of them. Nothing to see here.


misterbuns - 2015-05-06

My friend had her head caved in because he was wearing a dress. Would she be one of the punchlines you're talking about?


Shoebox Joe - 2015-05-06

Allow me to answer for Caminante, misterbuns!

"Pics or it didn't happen!"


Chocolate Jesus - 2015-05-06

Yes. Wait, what kind of dress was it?


Caminante Nocturno - 2015-05-07

BONK!


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-05-07

We all know that there are tiresome people who react to this kind of thing out of pure self righteousness. BUT here's the thing: when people get an ego boost out of being outraged, generating outrage isn't going to teach them a lesson. You might as well be sucking their dicks.


Shoebox Joe - 2015-05-07

It was obviously a Pinkie Pie mumu other wise Caminante wouldn't have cared!


lotsmoreorcs - 2015-06-03

TRUE TRANS SOUL REBE-BONG!


Caminante Nocturno - 2015-06-03

Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!


Chancho - 2015-05-05

This game gives me a huge boner.


Gmork - 2015-05-06

How the fuck did this evil get onto steam greenlight? Do they really have zero standards?


casualcollapse - 2020-05-05

I think you know the answer to this question


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