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Desc:Paul Elam posts a video of drunken midldle aged MRAs making degrading comments about young women.
Category:Horror
Tags:MRAs, a voice for men, Paul Elam, worse than juggalos
Submitted:John Holmes Motherfucker
Date:10/01/15
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15th - 2015-10-01

You can only push nice guys so far before they take a stand.


yogarfield - 2015-10-01

i don't see a single man in this wash of smug, doughy, butternothings


Crab Mentality - 2015-10-01

I don't see why any of these attractive gentlemen would have problems with women.


Rosebeekee - 2015-10-01

"worse than juggalos"
No kidding. Juggalos can at least get laid.


The Mothership - 2015-10-01

funny cause it's true.


Xenocide - 2015-10-02

Juggalos, bronies, and furries can all rest easy knowing that at least they're not the very bottom of the barrel.


Lurchi - 2015-10-01

ewww


Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2015-10-01

This is how TFL manifests itself. That and occasional shootings.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-10-01

Oh, the comments! The motherfucking comments! People, including some professed anti-feminists, express their dismay at the horrible spectacle and Elam, the face of the men's rights movement, responds with the defiance of a 14 year old Blood on the Dance Floor Fanboy, displaying a rhetorical style based on the classic "I know you are, but what am I?" style.

I'm beginning to think that the MRA heyday is passing. They're starting to attack each other now. Not only is Thunderf00t attacking Owen/Aurani, The Amazing Atheist made a video attacking Roosh V. YouTube is now run by a woman, and Google is announcing an initiative to take harassment seriously. There's talk that some of these antifeminist videos, as they become more and more responsible, may face being demonetized soon.

And then there's this. How can any kid with half a brain , no matter how much he loves video games and hates Anita, want to grow up to be like this? Though I'm not sure "grow up" is the right term.


magnesium - 2015-10-01

I don't know about MRA's in general, but Elam and AVFM are definitely falling out of favour. They managed to hold a noticeable convention last year, but this year they had to cancel it for lack of interest/funds and the web traffic is way down. He's trying to branch out into Scientology-style fake psychiatry, but it doesn't appear to be taking off.

PUA's are dying out now, too. Any men who got into it because they genuinely just wanted to meet dates have long since realized it doesn't work. All that's left are bitter, rage-beards, which is why the PUA internet personalities have been shifting towards neo-naziism, gamergate, conservative American politics, etc.


BHWW - 2015-10-01

Just an example of where Paul Elam is coming from: http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/a-letter-to-traditional-women-re visited/

"My recent “Letter to Traditional Women,” provoked a lot of visits, commentary and dissent yesterday. Funny how that happens when you get in peoples faces and drop a few F-bombs on their sacred cows.

Entrails are still hitting the ground."

Heh, deal with it. :pixelated sunglasses descend over eyes:

"I am pretty sure I read a comment from zed over at TS not too long ago that “Most MRA’s are one blowjob away from becoming a mangina.” And I had to laugh when Andrea, not so coincidentally I might add, brought up all the blowjobs that good traditional husbands could expect from good traditional wives if only we were smart enough to indulge them in a life of light housekeeping and cooking, both of which can be had on the cheap, and both of which they directly benefit from more than the man. After all, how much is he enjoying that tidy little abode while he is in the coal mine?"

Heh, away with your whorishness, wench, why I could hire a prostitute for a fraction of the price of the prison that is marriage and Lean Cuisine microwave meals have never let me down.

As you can read, this is pretty typical for Elam, who writes with a surplus of the sort of pent-up emotions that come from some dweeb in long-term dead-end office job instead of being some stalwart manual laborer.

"But look what happens when the White Knight’s exact counterpart, the “traditional” woman, comes in with a guise of empathy and agreement for the MRM, but when all is said and done ends up offering fellatio in exchange for indentured servitude, and reveling in her “traditional power,” as a woman."

This is the sort of comparison crybaby MRA nerds like Elam are fond of, calling marriage "indentured servitude" or "prison" or "slavery".

Some more choice quotes:

"To this day, after 25 years of activism for men, if I saw a woman I didn’t know in some sort of trouble, I would still have to go through a conscious process to let her fend for herself."

"Traditionalism is the driving force behind male slavery. It is the psychological machine that socializes men into becoming fodder and into becoming lapdogs disguised as guard dogs."

"In my way of thinking, it never was a good deal. In the age of misandry and feminist governance, it is foolhardy to say the least. I would not do it; not for a million dollars, and certainly not for a blow job and plate of beans that I had to pay for."

Imagine any woman who had been married to this whiny loser, having to deal with his petulance, tantrums, and crybaby antics as he got older, more self-indulgent, easily set off by the tiniest slights, real or imagined.

"Her sons will live on their knees, and her daughters will pay for that privilege – on theirs.

Thanks, but I’ll pass."


magnesium - 2015-10-01

Elam has been married a couple of times (there's an article somewhere where his first wife and estranged daughter were interviewed and their stories are about what you'd expect). His current wife supports him financially so that he can be a full time, unemployed internet weirdo.


Scrimmjob - 2015-10-01

"Lean Cuisine microwave meals have never let me down."


This man has incredibly low standards.


Xenocide - 2015-10-01

I like the part where he laments that a part of him still wants to help women in trouble. He deeply regrets still possessing that last tiny shred of human empathy, but not to worry -- he's working hard to kill it.


BHWW - 2015-10-01

The Lean Cuisine line was me mocking his attitude; another great line from that article, that you see some of these MRAs and Men Going Their Own Way types espouse is that women SHOULD have to work in grueling, draining jobs that take a toll on the body, instead of being a "Couch Princess" who no doubt sits around all day eating bon-bons and leeching off the labor of her husband-slave.


baleen - 2015-10-02

A Voice for Men is the absolute worst of the MRA.


Scrimmjob - 2015-10-02

aww, I'm really disappointed that he didn't actually say the Lean Cuisine line.


M-DEEM - 2015-10-01

Oh look! The next ten years of casting for tim and eric is done


Chancho - 2015-10-01

My favourite thing on PoEtv in years, maybe ever.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2015-10-02

>>"My recent “Letter to Traditional Women,” provoked a lot of visits, commentary and dissent yesterday. Funny how that happens when you get in peoples faces and drop a few F-bombs on their sacred cows.

>>Entrails are still hitting the ground."

>>Heh, deal with it. :pixelated sunglasses descend over eyes:

>>Look, it is just some men having non PC fun.

Remember when "being an asshole" was just "being an asshole"? Now it's political, an act of rebellion against oppressive forces that would make us act like adults.

What has happened to conservatism? When did "fuck you" become a traditional value?


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