Not a 3rd wave fan either, too 'mall musicky' and the sort of thing I imagine Guy Fieri being totally down with.

I lol'd so much that my backwards sunglasses fell off

I did have a brief love affair with Less Than Jake though in high school, I'll confess. Since all bands I liked were pretty much guitar bass and drums, no instruments I knew how to play were utilized like they were with bands like that. It was also one of the more fun moshpits I've been in when I went to see them back in '98 or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIVAqi5VRIc

Back in 2000 I had was covering e3 for a certain SEGA website and got to interview Bad Religion about Crazy Taxi, so I was backstage and turned out hanging out with Blink 182 for a few minutes. They were actually really cool guys. Couldn't play their instruments but who cared, the thousands of screaming teenage girls didn't. Not sure if that was the high or low point of my career. I'm guessing that's how Bad Religion felt too, who were opening for them.

Dude ranch a good album

Because of this and the 50 seconds I made it, I decided to 5 star this to have another serious discussion about ska so it'd stay on the front page. I never quite got the "wave" thing: for example, a band like Black Flag is referred to Morris/Rollins/Ginn but it's never been in "wave" just "era," since punk was never officially declared dead, since punk aesthetics were still being applied in music that wasn't punk because calling yourself punk in the 90s was like calling yourself "emo."

1st wave ska:

cultural ska music appears outside of jamaica

2nd wave ska

independent bands outside of jamaica making ska music for fun or political reasons

3rd Wave Ska

SELL OUT WITH ME TONIGHT

Ha I had that Reel Big Fish song in my head when I was typing that. But every genre has had some variation on that theme, like Replacements Left of the Dial or Lou Reed's Original Wrapper. Not trying to defend RBF but the song had the same kind of cynicism as most artists' songs about selling their souls to rock and roll do since the rest of their songs were about, I dunno.. never really listened to their stuff

im just saying there were different reasons the music was being made and that is where the different waves come from.


even if a band in the 90's wasnt commercially successful or making ska for a non commercial reason there was a popular market for it

there wasnt for 2nd wave

and 1st wave wasnt white people

5 stars in support of 3rd wave ska week, for evil

Also how do you think Subhumans feel about this ridiculous marketing photo made to sell cheap screen printed shirts(most likely made by Chinese children) promoting their band?

http://tinyurl.com/z9u9y2w

when shit got real dark for me in my late teens culture shock / subhumans / citizen fish was all i had. It sorta saved my life I guess.

i hadnt listened to them since the mid 00's and am revisiting them now.

It's pretty incredible how prophetic they were. I mean the dystopian vision of the future punk obsessed with was pretty common fare, but Dick Lucas was so specific and poetic about it.

When you listen to songs like Active Ingredients with where global warming is now it's almost as if those lyrics were written yesterday.

All of it is amazing.

I can't imagine what it must feel like to be an old man living in the world you thought existed in 1984, with all your energy and ideas spent on a dead genre that is just being cannibalized for fashion.

it's fucking wretched. 5 stars for how fucked everything is.

Yeah Crass would've been another example, but it didn't really die, it just became a commodity. David Berman once said that punk died when the first punk rocker said "punk's not dead". Nas also declared that "hip hop is dead" in order to revitalize hip hop. But there's not "wave" punk or hip hop the way there is ska,. I'm just curious as to how it because something so compartmentalized as a genre. :)

Subhumans are by far my favorite punk rock band. Listen to their albums in reverse(chronologically) for fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE_RKQrHXfE

i actually fell in love with culture shock before subhumans



let's just skip 3rd wave and do 2nd wave

I'm not good at hitting reply before posting...

That's ok I'm not either :) You're right too, it's better to get off the hook and just sort of become EDM instead of IDM or New Country instead of Old.

aw shit reverse that last part about country music :D