This isn't emo?

Whoops that was directed at the YT poster, not your post. The sentiments in the song are emotional, but that doesn't define "emo" anymore than calling Puccini's La Boheme emo or Grimes, or Hank Williams somewhere in-between. Emo, like punk, was meant to be an emotional expression of love, depression, fear, but it also tied itself to its Fugazi/Straightedge ways, so just because this song is emotional and has guitars in it doesn't make it emo to me.

No, no, I know your comment was directed at the YT poster, I'm just curious. I've never heard this band before and I have no idea if kids consider them to be "emo" or not... although to me, it sounds like all the other music which my friend's emo wife listens to.

The first time I ever heard about emo was back in highschool, from a fan of Dashboard Confessional - but so far as I remember they didn't sound anything like modern emo, so fuck if I know what it is!

Ooooo Dashboard Confessional is a great example! I saw him play at some small venue probably 15 years ago kinda drunk and it was just dude with a guitar. Reminded me of Elliott Smith. But all of a sudden he took off and put the rock into it. So not too long after, Taking Back Thursday, Blood and the Dance Floor and Fallout Boy were emo too. Why not? It's good music to swoon to or possibly get a blowjob in a snowy Walgreens parking lot, sure! But it'd be like if One Direction decided to do go "punk" for a day. They'd be labeled as "Poser Punk." Emo kind of lost that one too early, so all the sad kids at school are either emos or goths; there's a lot of supporters for the the "don't call us goths" thing but the emos got kind of fucked because it was such a small subgenre to begin with.

Oops and also it's just Spinanes, one "n". One of my favorite albums.

I guess IMO, this defines emo, during its death,

https://youtu.be/IHojo0fjIa0

and this was sort of the beginning (except Rites of Spring, but everything on Discord was Emo)

https://youtu.be/55N3tDrhjLQ

So I dunno, this song's just a rock song that's not very good but not emo.

And just becuz,

https://youtu.be/-ZTvqUvgYCI

https://youtu.be/RG2FFpI5K3s

That's emo. :D

I should retract the "straightedge" part though since the only band I mentioned that was, was Rites of Spring. Unless "Kiss The Bottle" was about something else. Maybe it was literal? He kissed a bottle of 7-up? Who knows.

About 5 seconds into hearing it I thought it was the craptastic self-pitying millenial version of Don't Try Suicide by Team Dresch, and then 5 seconds later I was like that godamn infinite zest is probably gonna beat me to it, so why bother. Though I will give you points for my favorite emo artist of all time, Hank Williams.

Team Dresch!!! I can't quite remember how I got it but I've got one of Kaia's pingpong t-shirts when she went to the LGBTQ Olympics. How did I get that shirt.. but wow that's not name you hear every day!

Oh shit.. an ex girlfriend gave it to me, now I remember. Her bakery baked her a pingpong cake in celebration of the olympics, so she gave her a shirt, and after we broke up I didn't think to give it back when we broke up. I should see if she wants that t-shirt back. That's kinda emo. :(

I'd say the Spinanes are just an indie-pop band, though they were a pretty good one. "Lines and Lines" still kills.

It depends on what you define as emo exactly. From its punk origins rose many bands in the 90s that sort of defined themselves as a boy and a girl writing a song about love and heartbreak, which was all indie-pop too. Looking at the list of emo bands on wikipedia, you're right though. But where's Neutral Milk Hotel? That's the most emo album of the 1990s! So who knows?

I don't identify myself as anything really, but emo seemed like the easiest one because in general I like every kind of genre in some way, so it's a song that speaks to me that defines me. Like any genre it's going to be shat upon by someone, like like "stupid punks," "stupid goths" or "stupid ska kids" but there's always a Black Flag, Bauhaus or Specials to retort with. But identifying as an emo like I did (maybe still do) is rough because the genre went from really good love/breakup jangly punk to "OMG IM GONNA BLOW UP MY OWN FACE" kinda suicide rock.

I had no idea the emo "scene" and emo bands and emo guys in girl jeans and makeup and calling things "emo" were even a thing anymore. I thought that shit had died off well over seven years ago.

Yeah I stopped identifying as Emo publically sometime back in like 2005 because it was becoming uncool. It's kinda unfair that they have Goth Nights or Metal Nights at bars and stuff and listen to Bauhaus or Slayer, but there's never any Emo nights, just other indie bands that identify as "indie." Like Bon Iver's as Emo as they come and he can sell out a show at a stadium these days but that's not Emo, even though that album's about as emotional as they come. So if you're metal it's cool: you probably liked Slayer and not Korn. If you're goth you liked Joy Division or Bauhaus and not.. I dunno lots of bands that talk about death. It was a subgenre for sure but its origins never get a fair chance like those genres do. More emo appreciation would be nice, or at least places that would have a "night" for it, because everybody plays fucking kiss the bottle at last call.

Nice thing about being emo is I never had to change my wardrobe! :)

Ah hahaha!

not that it matters anymore (I dunno with the stewart chick as a recent example I think it might matter more than ever) but does it violate the prime directive if I start lurking on your deviant art page homer?

Yeah, sure, go for it! That's why I made the page.

I've been looking at it for years now! So was Archieluxury, apparently. I've got a few things up there as well but I didn't really get too far.. but browse away if you like at all 4 of my DA!

http://infinitezest.deviantart.com/

Actually 7 now. But I suck. It's just fun :)

I dunno, I don't know any furries in real life, but they seem pretty happy to me. People put on masks every time they go to work at a lot of places too, it's just in a Best Buy or Wal-Mart uniform or something. And I've been to plenty of punk rock shows with people in black leather jackets all decked out with their tattoos showing; they were probably working in a Best Buy or Wal-Mart earlier that day. I sort of got this early on, because I like punk rock shows but sometimes feel out of place at a show because I don't look the part, probably how I'd feel if I went to a furry convention just wearing my street clothes. But the punk rock kids don't look at me funny or kick me out because I don't have a costume on, and I'd imagine the furries wouldn't either.

How's it feel to a person who can't get along with fat creeps?