Advanced stage Morgellons

Oh and the comments are exactly what I expected.

Because recently a crazy 70 year old man has been ranting about how a 67 year old woman is too old to be president.

Yup, and turns out, the crazy 70 year old man was right.

Since sanders hadn't been caught by omnipresent media following him during a moment of weakness, he must not have any health problems whatsoever.

And being healthier would automatically make some republicans and all democrats work with him as a president despite him being hated by all republicans and disliked by most democrats

It sure isn't like Sanders has been busting ass the past several weeks like Hillary has. Dude's probably relaxing in his new 5,000 summer home.

... okay, interesting PHP error there: that was supposed to be "575,000" dollars, but the server apparently tried to do a variable substitution.

tl/dr PHP sucks that way, and Sanders hasn't been working half as hard as Hillary has.

Hey, instead of "Weekend at Bernie's" we get "Weekend at Hillary's".

Stars are for Mr Wildcat!

You've got your candidates mixed up. John McCain was the one with 5,000 summer homes.

Five hundred THOUSAND dollars you say??? Nobody told me Bernie Sanders had median salary kind of money. Damn. This changes everything.

It's his third home and he paid cash for it.

I wouldn't begrudge a normal politician the ability to buy a summer home, but this is Bernie, who holds that all politicians (except for him) are on the take. So let's judge him by the standards he applies to others. Lord knows, if Hillary were able to pay cash for a new home immediately after a campaign, it would be seen as proof positive of corruption.

Yes, this spectacularly ill-timed collapse sure is bad FOR BERNIE.

That Bernie, huh, he's really something.

I can outdo you there, Bort.
Bernie Sanders allowed the F-35 project into his state and his constituents made money off it.
This is actually a reason why actual socialists defected from him far before he lost the nomination. It's definitely sad that in order to survive in American politics you can't act like a Green Party person all the time.

But as you are a creature of realpolitik (like me!), then I don't have to point out to you how silly it is to compare a woman who's daughter is married to a Goldman Sachs executive to a man who proposed a fucking forced takeover of American banks.

He can propose a free unicorn in every garage and a goblin in every oven. He's never been in a position to actually carry out any of his wild promises or demands, and he wouldn't be able to even as president.

Hillary, on the other hand, promises war, corporatism, shameless tyranny - and by God, those are promises she can deliver!

Assuming her poor health doesn't kill her first.

You know, Bort, politics is all about compromise.

I know you don't find Jill Stein to be ideal, but at this point she's the only candidate you've got. She can win, but only if everyone gets behind her.

You know what to do.

She's likely to come down with smallpox, or wi-fi cancer.

A person that thinks the right and the left are the same in 2016 and enthusiastically supports Clinton is NOT the kind of person that wants to win with Stein.

A Stein or a Bernie administration is the worst nightmare of the comfortable-class neolibs. They'd rather have Trump and blame the loss on the left, it serves their agenda much more than electing a progressive ever would.

If Jill Stein had pneumonia, she'd have been fine. She would have just diluted one part per trillion of Asprin in water, drank it, smoked some calming weed out of her authentic native American pipe (those people are so wise and mystical) rubbed herself down with organic tree sap, consumed the heart of a virgin deer under the full moon (the deer consented so it still counts as vegan) and then she'd have been back on her feet within a day.

Then a week later, she would collapse and die of another disease that could have been easily prevented via standard vaccinations.

Crackersmack: I lost my faith in the Left after the response to Netroots Nation, and how so many Bernie supporters adopted without hesitation the same anti-black defenses the Republicans have been using since at least the 1990s ("MLK Jr wouldn't approve" / "our policies will benefit all citizens so blacks should shut up" / "if they weren't being so UNREASONABLE perhaps we might listen to them"). From there I started noticing the Left was just as impervious to facts, just as bound to ideology, just as insistent on simple / elegant / wrong solutions as the Right. And the harassing of critics, culminating in death threats following the Nevada Democratic primary ... if any of that came from the Right I wouldn't be surprised, but it was coming from the Left.

"But not all of us are that way", protest some of the Left just as some of the Right do. Well it's up to you to police your ranks, I say to the lot of you.

In the end, I can detect only one difference between the Left and the Right any longer: the Left thinks the government may help them get more, while the Right is worried the government is going to take from them. That's it. And when one of these Lefties makes enough money that taxes become an issue in their mind, they'll flip to the Right without compromising a single principle, because there were no principles there to begin with.

You know Bort, the fact that there were vocal toxic people supporting Bernie is just showing that he actually did have broad appeal.

When you only appeal to a small number of academic leftists, you don't make a lot of noise. When you actually start promising real beneficial change for most people, the small odds that some of those "most people" are awful human beings start to matter.

Basically any large movement is going to have awful people in it. It doesn't mean it's not worth it. Do you really think a Bernie landslide would be worse than Trump or Clinton?

This wasn't a matter of just a couple Bernie nuts making some noise -- of course you'll find that in every fan base -- it was a pretty significant segment of the Bernie support base. And worse, even after the death threats following Nevada, Bernie's response was to JUSTIFY their behavior rather than demand his people knock it off.

And by the way, yes, a Bernie landslide WOULD be worse than a Hillary landslide. Bernie is an unqualified, uninformed moron who has no solutions. Dude still can't tell us why single payer failed in Vermont, but that wasn't about to stop him from taking Green Mountain Single Payer nationwide.

If NN and the straight-up lies promoted by Clinton surrogates about Nevada made you lose your faith in the left then I guess you must be too young to remember how quickly a lot of the self-identified left fell into right into line with the jingoism and aggression after 9/11.

You must have been asleep during the entire Obama administration while the self-identified left excused the continuation and expansion of so many of the worst Bush administration policies that we supposedly opposed from '00 to '08.

NN and NV ain't shit. In fact it's fucking absurd to the point of being hilarious that these are the examples that you've chosen to make your point. People on Twitter were annoyed that Bernie got interrupted at NN? Oh my fucking god. Yeah they are definitely the same as zero-government nihilists and straight-up racists because of that.

When I labeled you a comfortable-class neolib I was right on the fucking money. You people don't have any idea what's happening out here. Your version of "fuck you, got mine" is exactly the same whether you are sympathetic to identity politics or not.

'I lost my faith in the Left after the response to Netroots Nation, and how so many Bernie supporters adopted without hesitation the same anti-black defenses the Republicans have been using since at least the 1990s ("MLK Jr wouldn't approve" / "our policies will benefit all citizens so blacks should shut up" / "if they weren't being so UNREASONABLE perhaps we might listen to them")'


Wait what? Anti black? You mean like the woman who referred to blacks as Super-predators & spoke at length of "Bringing them to heel"?

Also, black incarceration well up quite a bit during the 90's as I recall...

You guys realize Stein is an MD, vocally supports vaccines, and that this meme of her being anti-vax was drummed up due to her opposition to the revolving door between pharmaceutical lobbyists and the FDA, right?

Also, single payer failed in Vermont because Democrats at the state level actively went after it to kill it.

Bernie probably couldn't talk about that because he chose the evil of running as a Democrat for ballot access over being right and verboten from any discussion, as is Stein.

"the straight-up lies promoted by Clinton surrogates about Nevada"

You mean the death threats, to which Bernie responded with only the most tepid and passing criticism in a multi-page document justifying them. Here are some of the fine fine people you're trying to make excuses for:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/pro-bernie-trolls-on -why-they-harassed-nevadas-democratic-chair-20160518

Face it, Bernie was a demagogue who was happy to fleece his flock Jim and Tammy Faye style, at a time, while encouraging the worst behavior in his flock if it kept them amped up and clicking "Donate".

So, legit question then: how would you explain the fact that Clinton was exponentially more popular than Bernie among minority groups, to the point that Sanders basically only won in states with overwhelmingly white populations?

"You guys realize Stein is an MD, vocally supports vaccines, and that this meme of her being anti-vax was drummed up due to her opposition to the revolving door between pharmaceutical lobbyists and the FDA, right?"

In other words, exactly the "teach the controversy" approach that anti-vaxxers have gotten good at over the past several years: "in theory vaccinations are safe, but HOW DO WE KNOW THEY AREN'T POISON????"

Jill Stein MD should know better. She's actively betraying her Hippocratic Oath.

"Also, single payer failed in Vermont because Democrats at the state level actively went after it to kill it. "

No, it failed because the taxes required to cover it were exorbitant and a deal-breaker. Which is not the fault of single payer itself, but it definitively shows that the battle we need to be fighting now is not single payer but controlling medical costs. When medical costs drop to sensible levels, single payer will be affordable.

Your boy Bernie was a con man.

Do you get DNC talking point memos in your daily email or something? Are you, in fact, a pundit on MSNBC?

I'd believe both if you just want to confess to it now.

Yeah Pillager, I stand by that: listening to Bernie supporters was like listening to Stormfront but with more sensitive wording. And I'm by no means the first person to have noticed it:

https://rewire.news/ablc/2015/08/11/blacklivesmatter-hurt-feel ings-white-progressives/

"You mean like the woman who referred to blacks as Super-predators & spoke at length of "Bringing them to heel"?"

No she didn't. She said that some few gang members were super predators who needed to be brought to heel, but she never said or implied anything of the like about blacks as a whole. In fact, those same gang members were of great concern to the black community, which is why blacks who remember the 90s are less gullible about taking the quote out of context.

No kingarthur, I just bother to know what I'm talking about before I form my conclusions. Here's what happened to Green Mountain Single Payer:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/12/18/ver mont-ends-push-for-single-payer-health-care/

"But Michael Costa, Shumlin’s deputy director of health care reform, concluded the plan would have required an 11.5 percent payroll tax on all Vermont businesses and an income tax hike of up to 9.5 percent. Those taxes wouldn’t have covered transition costs to the new system, which would have amounted to at least 0 million.

“These are simply not tax rates that I can responsibly support or urge the legislature to pass,” Shumlin said in a speech Wednesday. “In my judgment, the potential economic disruption and risks would be too great to small businesses, working families and the state’s economy.”"

http://wonkette.com/605001/dr-jill-stein-pandering-to-anti-vax xers-because-she-is-awful

"We’ve been covering anti-vaxxers for a while now. We know their language, and Stein is parroting it. That’s the thing most people don’t understand about the anti-vaccine movement, and why it can be so appealing to otherwise intelligent people: most anti-vaxxers actually do believe that vaccines work, at least in theory. The rub is that they usually believe the current supply of vaccines has been tainted by some pernicious “Other”: Big Pharma, the commies, the globalists, the Jews, the Illuminati, or even the persnickety Jewlluminati. It’s only the truly unhinged anti-vaxxers like your Natural Newses or your Disclose.TVs who believe that the very technology behind vaccines is fraudulent. Even Jenny McCarthy, long the be-botoxed face of the modern anti-vaccine movement, has stated that she believes vaccines are good, but that she is in favor of “safe” vaccines, believing that the vaccines are somehow tainted by the existence of vaccine manufacturers."

"So, legit question then: how would you explain the fact that Clinton was exponentially more popular than Bernie among minority groups, to the point that Sanders basically only won in states with overwhelmingly white populations?"

Xeno - he's going to try to squirm his way into saying that blacks are less informed than whites, but in a way that doesn't make it the fault of blacks.

It couldn't possibly be that blacks know more about their lot than whites do, or they don't trust a guy like Bernie whose approach to BLM just a couple months before Netroots Nation was like this:

http://socialistworker.org/2015/05/05/sanders-dodge-on-black-l ives-matter

Oh yeah, there's a guy who gives AT LEAST half a crap about the problems of black America. If only he'd bothered to return calls to his black constituents once in a while, he might have been better informed.

'Hamilton Nolan at Gawker called them “stupid.”'

Do you have any links that don't cite the late, unlamented Gawker as a credible source?

Seriously, Shrillary is a Closet TPP embracing, War hawk, Goldwater republican who feels entitled to the presidency. The fact that the stories about her health keeps changing doesn't help either.

For you, Bort:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UyM6jJzuVw


God bless your noble spirit.

Pillager: if you actually gave a shit about what blacks think about Sanders and Clinton, you'd do the research yourself. You'd also discover that Sanders supporters treating blacks like crap was a defining characteristic of the campaign.

Well, at least it meant that Sanders lost, and lost big to Hillary. But not to fret, at least the revolution continues without him, right?

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/26/12658332/bernie-sanders-post-camp aign-political-revolution

... whoops, I guess not! And since article, Canova lost to DWS, 43% to 57%. The Sanders "revolution" has been a failure on every level -- from electoral to moral -- and perhaps you should give some serious thought to where you went wrong.

"You mean like the woman who referred to blacks as Super-predators & spoke at length of "Bringing them to heel"?"

Did she actually refer to blacks? See, I don't think she did. Everytime I ever hear about this, someone else has to explain what she really means by that.
Here, Cenk supplies us with the code.


The Superpredator panic was driven by social scientists and criminologists, who were speculating about a new kind of sociopathic criminals. Only after it was all over, AND IDENTIFIED AS A MORAL PANIC did racism become part of the explanation.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000002807771/the-superpreda tor-scare.html

The superpredator theory was something that scientists were actually talking about. Nobody was talking about race. It was definitely a Liberal's awkward attempt at a "tough on crime" posture, and who knows what horrible thoughts were dancing behind her eyes, but to "refer" to blacks require a REFERENCE to blacks, and it just doesn't seem to be there. It's way too much presumption for us to be talking about this 20 years later.

"Did she actually refer to blacks?"

Nope. But the context at the time was clear: if you lived in a crime-ridden neighborhood, you were at risk from these vicious new gang members, of whom Bernie said:

"It is my firm belief that clearly, there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-superpredat or_us_56bd00b9e4b08ffac124806b

Dude was happy to twist Hillary's words even when he was saying pretty much the same thing. Reason #4983 that Bernie is human filth.

haha bort you dumb motherfucker

5 for bort sucking hillary's dick all over the place loudly and sloppily

Who in the fuck cites Wonkette as a source on anything?

Kingarthur, I do!

Whenever someone says something like "gawdamned millennials destroyed all language with their word salad memespeak!" I point them at Wonkette and remind them that, in fact, gen x were the first to invent a word salad infant language for the Internet. I call it oh-hai-mark-sprechen (which is actually spelled as the cat-face emoticon). Wonkette is an exploded case to the point of illiterate. It's such an obscene amount of phoneme abuse I consider it a valid argument for the existence of body thetans. Like, the pure gestalt expression of the site is squeezing your sphincter so tight the only noise you can make is "skweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" which is the wonkette gen-x mating call.

:3

Does anyone still think it's a coincidence that all the biggest Bernie supporters were the dumbest, most contrarian posters on this site?

Can't wait until the Bernouts throw the election again in 2020 and Trump gets to stack a THIRD hard right judge to replace Ginsburg! People won't even need Hulu to experience Handmaid's Tale.

@Nominal, Hillary lost to the orange goblin. We told you so. Still think you can win without us? Go for it. I can wait out 2020 & beyond as well.


@ Bort & JHM, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno

She was referring to Black People. Stop denying it. She's the last person who deserved the Social Justice crowd's support...

I think that pneumonia is dehydrating in general, having had it as a six year old. You don't get over it quickly. I remember having to have my back and sides beaten to cough up the shit in my lungs.

***** stars for that vidya.

I watched half of it and posted the link before I realized it was a joke/reenactment, because I've seen my share of people acting exactly the same way in real life.

If anything he was a little too coordinated.