Old_Zircon - 2016-11-02
Yeah, sorry but you started at least a decade too late in the timeline there, kids.
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Bort  - 2016-11-02 At the very least I expected some mention of the Battle of Adrianople.
Here's how I understand the term has shifted over the years. The Goths were various Germanic tribes like around 300-500 CE -- Ostrogoths in the east, Visigoths in the west -- so the term "Gothic" was applied to old architecture after the Middle Ages as a pejorative to imply lack of civilization. From there, I guess, "Gothic" took to meaning old ruins, and then old ruins with that air of desolation, and that gets us to the modern meaning.
Side note, we recently had a video where Germans were described as "Huns"; that's sort of inversely related to associating "Goths" with savagery. The difference is, in WWI the Kaiser FAVORABLY compared his Germans to the Huns, which is sort of a WTF. My best guess: the Huns are evil if your culture traces back to the Romans and a Mediterranean orientation; but if your culture traces back to the foes of Rome -- as the Germans do -- Attila and friends were, culturally speaking, your allies.
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Sputum - 2016-11-02 where would start it, OZ?
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Born in the RSR - 2016-11-02
goddammit! I like your music but I just hate your people sooooo much!
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StanleyPain - 2016-11-02
Before I watched this I was like "I'll bet this doesn't even mention the Batcave scene." and, of course, it doesn't.
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memedumpster - 2016-11-02
Pitchfork is the Buzzfeed of Hot Topic, so here's some Jacula for y'all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8YG-kXjWZ0
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memedumpster - 2016-11-02 Oh! And some Power of Picts!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7tCV-4H-j0
Goth was basically over by 1970.
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kingarthur - 2016-11-02
Siouxsie and her crew dismissed the Goth label entirely, kids. They never wanted to be part of your youth fashion cult.
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bopeton - 2016-11-03
I don't care how this started. I only want to know how it ends.
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