Bort - 2017-01-16
Five stars for how all the tags are synonyms for shit.
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Hazelnut - 2017-01-19 Ooh, just noticed: I love that Trump Watersports is week's #1 videio and this is #2.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-01-16
What's that? You say a piece of dog shit was hit by Shkreli?
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Cena_mark - 2017-01-16
Wu Tang!
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TeenerTot - 2017-01-16
I feel terrible that this made me happy.
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Old_Zircon - 2017-01-17 Not me.
I hope he gets a blinding roundworm infection.
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Bort - 2017-01-17 I hope he eats ham and the sawdust in his stomach explodes.
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infinite zest - 2017-01-16
Where's LotsMoreOrcs to defend this asshole?
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Xenocide - 2017-01-16 He recently accepted a White House cabinet position.
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Lord_Crocodilicus - 2017-01-16 Would Orcs really stoop as low as to defend someone throwing shit?
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SolRo - 2017-01-16 Orcs is in on a long vacation in Ban Land
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RedRust - 2017-01-17 I have a gut feeling EH was quietly banned. He doesn't seem like the type to run away...
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SolRo - 2017-01-17 unless there's some sekrit way to ban someone without it showing, he isn't currently banned. Orc's account still shows suspended till infinity
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Cena_mark - 2017-01-17 Exactly Bawbag, these morons deserve the shit they get.
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infinite zest - 2017-01-18 Oh no not EvilHomer! Something I should know about? I was AFK for 3 months or so earlier in the fall.
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bawbag - 2017-01-18 He's taken a break since this mess of a thread IZ: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=157731
Also he was very mad at a few of us using an ignore script I cobbled together because his post-election schtick ad nauseam was getting real old.
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Bort - 2017-01-18 I stopped using the blocker a week or two ago and was sad to see that EH wasn't posting at all. It was like when a friend of yours isn't showering enough during the summer: you don't want them gone forever, you just would like them to curb the unpleasantness.
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bawbag - 2017-01-18 He'll be back, surprised he's managed cold turkey for this long tbh; attention's a helluva drug.
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Xenocide - 2017-01-16
A large enough chunk of dogshit will naturally attract all other dogshit in the vicinity. This is called Shit Magnetism and it's the most fundamental principal of all known science.
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SolRo - 2017-01-16 I thought it would just seamlessly merge with him like mercury thrown at a t-1000
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Chancho - 2017-01-16
Martin Shkreli is misunderstood, imo. He has zero respect for the media so he trolls them relentlessly and gets tons of negative coverage for it.
He charges a shitload for his drugs because only the insurance companies pay those prices. He gives it away to individuals who can't afford it.
He invests in research of rare diseases that are unprofitable so often go untreated.
A good interview with Martin Shkreli: https://youtu.be/_PjHF87zwiM
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kingarthur - 2017-01-16 Really. So he's trying to scam the system like every other parasite (hospital chains, insurance companies, etc.) in the healthcare industry? Wow, our hero.
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SolRo - 2017-01-16 Even if any of that self-promoting bullshit were true, by scamming the insurance companies that makes insurance cost more and less people are able to afford it, thus making more people die from a lack of access to medical care. Just so that leeches like this shitbag can own a bigger apartment in downtown NYC and buy another Porsche.
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fedex - 2017-01-17 don't worry, they're all going straight to hell
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SolRo - 2017-01-17 TROLOLOL HE HELP MAKE HEALTHCARE INACCESSABLE TO PEOPLE WiTH NOT ENOUGH MONEY! SO FUNNY! YOU GET IT GUYZ?!
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Bort - 2017-01-17 "parasite"
I'm not about to defend Shkreli in particular, because he proved himself a greedy worm. But "parasite" means "one who eats at another's table", so depending on your perspective, EVERYONE is a parasite here: profit-motivated pharmaceutical companies, for-profit hospitals, doctors with a mortgage to pay, and yes even patients who want infinite health care for free.
Each of them has a legitimate self-interest perspective too. The ostensible justification for not letting people get their meds from Canada is because pharmaceutical companies need a market where they can set prices high enough to recoup costs. In and of itself it's a reasonable point: almost all the costs of putting a drug on the shelf are in the R&D phase, and if companies can't profit handsomely on drug sales, the company goes under. (Any of you who have ever tried to write and market software understand the issue: your time and effort has to be compensated only after you've done the hard work, and your customers always think you're overcharging no matter what price point you set.)
To fix the problem, Bort recommends regulating pharmaceutical companies thusly:
1) Taxpayer-funded subsidization of some or all research.
2) Structuring pricing within the US to allow for recouping R&D costs plus reaping some degree of profit, while limiting the price gouging.
3) Once costs have been recouped and profits have been collected, allow for generics, importing from Canada, and all the free market fun that the Left thinks is evil except when they benefit from it.
It's even more hypothetical than normal these days, but nevertheless that's what I recommend.
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Bort - 2017-01-17 Wrong on all counts! Especially that last one.
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memedumpster - 2017-01-17 That's hardly a refutation, but I propose a compromise in the spirit of things.
1.) Tie the MMI into defense spending and let the taxpayers subsidize pharmaceutical corporations' administration costs by peeling it off the taxpayer subsidized war profits. This frees up pharmacorp profits for pure research and how much a pharma exec makes in their parachute will be between them and the Pentagon's need for a bomb that turns Muslims into even more cash. This makes research spending front and center to the public to measure corporate greed, and the greedy murder fuckers at War INC will hold their execs far more accountable to ripping them off than lobbyist owned Senators will be on our behalf.
2.) Acknowledge that a disagreeable voice of dissent is still necessary for a free society and merely be neutral about my return.
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Oscar Wildcat - 2017-01-17 Whatever we do, let's not do what every other major western country has done and negotiate with the pharma companies as a bloc rather than as individual little punk ass bitches. Just because it's been proven to work is no reason to pay it any mind. Kisses!
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Bort - 2017-01-17 I didn't want to refute it point-by-point because we end up in territory where we won't convince each other, and isn't this place nicer when we're not arguing so much about politics.
But I will say that actual successful regulation exists, and the ACA's regulation of insurance companies is itself an example. 80%-85% of all premium dollars collected have to go to paying claims, insurance companies that have failed to do this have had to cut refund checks to policy holders, and except for Republican shenanigans the system seems stable. Side note, at such time as insurance companies are paying out significantly less to cover pharmaceutical costs, that automatically translates to a reduction in premiums because of that 80%-85% rule.
I don't think a disagreeable voice of dissent is necessary for a free society, though. The past eight years have taught us that those disagreeable voices will get disagreeable about the stupidest stuff because they've made disagreeability its own virtue. Now having legitimate disagreements is another matter, and intelligent, intellectually honest disagreement (where appropriate) is the thing that's necessary to a free society.
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blase - 2017-01-17
'Twouldn't surprise me if the "protests" were staged by those two drama queens so they could do that "I know you're intolerant but what am I?" thing they do so well (and boost book sales). Most people know that the best way to handle attention-craving trolls is to ignore them.
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CrimsonHyperSloth - 2017-01-17
Related video?
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=117186
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