Heresy!

It's true, though, with the time I waste on this stuff I could spend 30, maybe even 40 minutes every week or two reading a book at the deli down the street (I don't think I'd have time to get to the nearest coffee shop).

Yeah, get a life OZ!

Sincerely,
Guy Who Picks Fights on the Fucking Internet Every Day All Day

YouTube personality thing

They make fun of dummies on the internet in a light-hearted way without a lot of screeching like PewDiePie.

They're Reddit celebrities or something. I check in on them maybe once a month because they seem to be a good barometer of an interesting shift in political awareness among a certain slice of the Reddit world (and if you don't think that matters you weren't paying enough attention last year), and occasionally they still find something entertaining although I don't watch many of their actual videos. They recently announced project to crowdfun the purchase and dissemination of the browsing histories of congresspeople who voted in favor of rolling back the ban on ISPs selling browsing histories if that bill passes the house like it's expected to is a good idea for internet protest that might actually get some traction.

The point of this video is the continuing collapse of the lucrative race-baiting "prank channel" industry on Youtube right now, the comedy and the Internet drama-gossip stuff I don't really care about. But these two made their names pointing out the racism and misogyny in the Youtube pranks business and they're pretty strong on that front.

Anyway, these people are very popular with, and are helping mold the opinions of, a lot of people who will be voting for the first time in 2020 (or maybe even 2018) and whose own opinions will bleed over to their friends' opinions, to other Internet communities, and so on, so yeah, they're not something I'd expend much time, effort or thought on but they are worth being aware of.

Thanks for the detailed reply Old_Zircon!

"They recently announced project to crowdfun the purchase and dissemination of the browsing histories of congresspeople who voted in favor of rolling back the ban on ISPs selling browsing histories if that bill passes the house like it's expected to is a good idea for internet protest that might actually get some traction."

I am all about this.

I looked at the H3H3 tag and I realised I remember that guy from the interview with the youtube 'prankster' who hired those black guys to smash a car and filmed it. The way SolRo was foaming I thought this H3H3 channel was another guy like Sargon of Akkad or whatever. SolRo gonna SolRo I guess.

Looks like H3H3 is lending moral support to PewDiePie too - saw on twitter. Less enthused about that. Has PoeTV had an explosive argument about the PewDiePie thing? I feel like that's pretty fertile grounds for pointless antagonism.

Ethan and Hila are Mossad.
PewDiePie is a nazi.
Need I say more?

Yeah, H3H3 gets it wrong as often as they get it right, and the majority of their videos (especially since they got big) are pretty unwatchable in my book.


Sam Seder independently came up with a variant on the "threaten to buy politicians' browsing histories" idea on air today, which is interesting. It's doubtful that it would actually be possible but I hope there's an attempt.


Social security numbers, geolocation data and contents of private emails (probably abstracted in some way like use statistics for specific keywords or something, but maybe not - I haven't heard anything that specific yet) are among the things that ISPs will be able to sell to third parties. So that should be fun.

"Ethan and Hila are Mossad.
PewDiePie is a nazi.
Need I say more?"

Well, I don't know what you're talking about but I also want you to stop talking.

Islam is a race?

Chancho, it is to a lot of white people in the USA and EU, yes.


As well as some people recently departed from the EU.

I kind of enjoy H3H3, his critical take on on YT idiots is kind of a campy fun thing to look at every once in a while. He does tend to get a bit long in the tooth but overall I like his approach.

I did note he is paying through the nose to combat the copyright infringement case. I think the whole thing is whiny BS dressed up like a legal rights battle. But I do hope he wins out and some semblance of precedence is established over this insanity. Unfortunately it may not even matter if Google can't get its advertising mess in order.

He raised over $150k last year to start a legal defense fund for Youtubers who are facing frivolous lawsuits and can't afford to fight them, which is good.

Didn't he pay Hugh Mungus' hospital bills too?

5 for that!

Phil DeFranco really deserves the credit for raising those funds, and I believe the plan this whole time has been to use it to pay for their case, and then set up a fund with whatever was left. They posted a video awhile back about how it had cost $50k in lawyers fees just to get where they were then, so it doesn't seem like there's going to be a lot left.

Check out the Leonard French channel if you find it interesting. He's a copyright lawyer who does pretty thorough rundowns and updates of youtube copyright cases by parsing the court documents. He's got all the detail a person could reasonably tolerate.