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simon666 - 2018-11-20

Is that Boxy at 2:08?

My summation of the issues, though they were not made in these terms in the video:

1. Confirmation bias takes many forms.
2. People are 'groupish'
3. Hasty generalization fallacies et al run deez streets.


exy - 2018-11-20

Simon is the spiritual successor to Philosophy Bro. *****


poorwill - 2018-11-20

Without having seen the video: it's shoe0nhead. She's basically just Boxy for Black Shorts. JHM will be along soon to explain more while futilely trying to hide an erection. I think she might be too old for him tho - wiki says she's 27.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-20

*****
for poorwill


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-21

>>>JHM will be along soon to explain more while futilely trying to hide an erection.

I guess you're not very technical, but hiding an erection in a text-based forum is actually pretty easy.

But regardless, are you kidding? Lately, when I get an erection, I'm so happy about it that I have literally considered announcing it in a tweet.

June (shoe0nhead) used to be a fan of Catie, and I sort of knew her but not really through the Boxxysphere community. She could be a jerk, but her videos were always smart and funny, and it was kind of sad to see her take a bad turn.

At one time she was dating a guy who called himself GMaster, (a gamer, right?) He was a fucking asshole, and he became my arch nemesis. He actually photoshopped my head and Lisa's head (Catie's Mom) onto a sleazy picture and posted it in Encyclopedia Dramatica. It was actually pretty funny, but what a douchebag!


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-21

All that stuff about June and GMaster and Encyclopedia Dramatica is based on rumor and speculation. It would be irresponsible of me not to mention that.


Accidie - 2018-11-20

this pretty well nails it. I guess everybody will just be smarter from now on.


Cena_mark - 2018-11-20

I know a lot of people who strangely support Trump just out of hate for SJWs. My cousin was backing Trump's Supreme Court pick, yet is a pro-choice atheist. Sure Trump's Supreme Court will destroy abortion rights and the separation between church and state, but you gotta piss off those damned SJWs.


Accidie - 2018-11-20

like i said, it sure is nice that we all watched this video and that won't happen anymore.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-21

A couple of weeks ago, I encountered a YouTube channel where there were essays on

"Why SJWs hate antiSJWs",

and it was expressed in exactly those terms, and apparently explored like it was some kind of mystery, a deep philosophical question.

It would take a certain amount of work for me to actually unpack how

"Why SJWs hate antiSJWs",

reveals a staggering lack of self-awareness. It's pretty clear though, right?


Scrimmjob - 2018-11-20

Video is good, but you can take the chud shit back to r/chapo.


poorwill - 2018-11-21

i've never heard chapo. is it bad?


Scrimmjob - 2018-11-21

Chapo isn't that bad, their fanbase however is below furry teir.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-21

I watched this when it came out and it must be an age thing, I never went for the right wing stuff he did but I did have an almost inverse experience to what he's describing here, around 2010-15, where I went from being pretty left (about as left as I am now) to being increasingly disillusioned and alienated by the online behavior of the sort of reactionary, performative "left" trolls that social media amplified at the time.

Conveniently, the Washington Post just did a halfway decent article about the exact sort of stuff I'm talking abut, so I don't need to try to describe it, but this shit was rampant (if not necessarily as profitable) in the first half of this decade.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nothing-on-this-page-i s-real-how-lies-become-truth-in-online-america/2018/11/17/edd44cc8 -e85a-11e8-bbdb-72fdbf9d4fed_story.html

tinyurl link to the same story:

https://tinyurl.com/ya7nueu9


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-21

I mean sure but one side has a body count
n that nukes 99% of that lib handwringing for me
because i have skin in the game


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-21

Remember Shirtgate? That was when I first understood that feminists could be bullies, too.

Also God help anyone who dissents AT ALL from the profeminist orthodoxy of WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH. You'll wind up with five or six people mining your social media profiles for things to attack you on.

I think my feminist credentials in here are pretty solid, but women don't own feminism. If men need to change AND THEY DO, that means men need to be fully engaged, and THAT means that this is no less about my life than about yours. I'm all in. I'm not an "ally". I'm a feminist.

But I am a man, and I tend to see things differently than women. I wasn't born understanding other people, or, for that matter, myself. So there can be conflict. Sometimes, about 50 per cent of the time, maybe just a little bit more, I turn out to be "clueless" or "unevolved" or some other form of "wrong". But I've learned a lot, and the GIF of a guy getting punched in balls with a boxing glove didn't really speed up the process.

On the other hand, welcome to the human race, JHM. There have been times when I have been mistaken online for a woman, and you feel the hostility right through the screen. So if I sometimes feel judged harshly for being a white male, that's not exactly right, but things have to get a whole lot worse, before I get to pay "THE VICTIM CARD". What I experience is just a little tiny sliver of what women and people of color experience all the time.

White privilege is the luxury of being outraged about taking a knee or comic book diversity instead of young men being shot dead for reaching for their cell phone.


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-22

"You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-21
I mean sure but one side has a body count
n that nukes 99% of that lib handwringing for me
because i have skin in the game"


Like I was saying, it never made me turn in to one of the anti-SJW twats, it just alienated me from a lot of left-leaning dialogue because I got sick of people saying ignorant shit that was playing into the right's stereotypes of them.

Anyhow, after 2016 everyone who was indulging in that shit flailed around and wrung their hands and got "woke" and and they're at least back to a late 90s level of discourse now, which is an improvement at least.


I think I'm extra cynical about political tribalism from living in New England, too, our democrats are to the right of Nixon on a lot of issues and the party machine is strong.


You People Are Idiots - 2018-11-22

thats fair i get ya


Old_Zircon - 2018-11-22

JHM, Manboobs/We Hunted the Mammoth was one of the prime examples of the shit I'm talking about.

It was always disappointing to see that guy flagrantly, willfully misrepresenting and cherrypicking the words of MRA/PUA types for the sake of clickbait when it was totally unnecessary because the things they actually said were more than enough to work with. It was just embarrassing and it certainly didn't do anything but help swell the ranks of Gamergaters (who went on to be one of the main recruitment grounds for the alt-right and the literal white supremacists and nazis a year or two down the line) by feeding their persecution complexes.

I'm no fan of Chapo Trap House ad their fans but at least they don't shy away from calling attention to that shit (even though they're kind of the opposite side of the same coin).


It's all just different flavors of convincing yourself that you're better than, so that you don't have to hold yourself accountable for anything, and can keep hanging on to the delusion of being a individual acting out of free will, rather than part of a larger matrix of circumstance.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2018-11-22

>>>>It's all just different flavors of convincing yourself that you're better than, so that you don't have to hold yourself accountable for anything, and can keep hanging on to the delusion of being a individual acting out of free will, rather than part of a larger matrix of circumstance.

It's the fucking internet, man. I'm convinced that the internet has made me a much better person, who cares and understands others, and it's a reasonable hypothesis that many others are experiencing something similar. But empathy isn't making me internet famous. There was a moment like maybe a year ago, when Twitter changed its format, and it would have had to change its algorithm at the same time. That was the moment when my retweets, and the slow growth of my twitter followers just stopped dead. Three hundred followers has been this crazy glass ceiling. I've gotten as high as 310, and right now I'm at 290. The algorithm doesn't like me any more. The algorithm likes Paul Joseph Watson.

What if the internet is making the world a better place, while making it look like a worse place?

Racism is not rational, so it's practically impossible to prove that someone is racist by a rational argument. Calling someone a racist shouldn't be your go-to argument because it's usually not an arguement.

On the other hand. when I get logic like " How is Trump calling MS-13 racist, when MS-13 is not a race?" my go-to response is "suck my dick".


Gmork - 2018-11-24

JHM / OZ get it


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