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Crackersmack - 2020-08-04

Just gonna leave this here:

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/lincoln-project-tru mp-militarism/

It's not hyperbole to say that the Lincoln Project is a well-funded, highly-organized attempt to turn the current Democratic Party into the Bush-era Republican Party. It's the same people with the same agenda.

How many human lives are worth getting rid of the bad orange man to you all? How many new wars will be started if we elect a Democratic Party with monsters like Rick Wilson influencing it?


Hazelnut - 2020-08-04

We’ve already thoroughly established that Crackersmack is a discredited, disingenuous, boring failure of a troll. His copy-pasted BS isn’t worth our time.

Or ad Gummy put it yesterday: “Crackersmack, I literally never post but I signed in tonight to say two things 1) If JHM is a Conservative Republican, I'm Donald Duck, and 2) You are a shitty, transparent asshole. No one believes you argue in good faith and you are wasting your time.“


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-08-04

Crackersmack is etc., but the link is worth a look. I like Rick Wilson, and I admire the Lincoln project, but if course they're not above criticism.


teethsalad - 2020-08-04

because as we all know, you win elections by refusing all help from all but the most squeaky clean, ineffective, and ideologically marginalized of political strategists and keeping your tent as small as possible

also the idea that somehow trump is less likely to drone strike a motherfucker or has de-escalated or mitigated any of the bush-era republican initiated conflicts is fucking laughable you shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitheel


Crackersmack - 2020-08-04

Obviously Trump isn't any better than any other Republican, but he's objectively not as bad as Bush if the body count matters to you at all.

What you people are enabling is for the Bush-era ghouls to use the Democratic Party as a vehicle to push their agenda to a fresh new crop of people that have recently become politically aware, without the burden of the unpopular current incarnation of the Republican Party being associated with it. (which ironically these same people were instrumental in creating)


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-08-04

It's not like they're secret Republicans. If you're a liberal or a leftist, or a Democrat, it's entirely reasonable to suppose that at some point your agenda and their agenda will diverge.


Crackersmack - 2020-08-04

Yeah and which side do you think the Dem Party establishment goes with? Which side is all of the donor money pushing them to?

The worst-case scenario isn't that Trump gets reelected, it's that the two parties become the Bush Republicans versus the Trump Republicans in every election from now on.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-08-04

>>>>What you people are enabling is for the Bush-era ghouls to use the Democratic Party as a vehicle to push their agenda to a fresh new crop of people that have recently become politically aware, without the burden of the unpopular current incarnation of the Republican Party being associated with it. (which ironically these same people were instrumental in creating)

Nearly every word of this is delusional, but let's concentrate on "ennabling"? Ennabling HOW? How are we making the Lincoln Project possible?


Crackersmack - 2020-08-04

By welcoming the participation of these people and allowing them to draw a distinction between "respectable conservatives" and Trump Republicans you are saving neoconservatism from the trash heap of history, and inviting it into the future of the Democratic Party.


Hazelnut - 2020-08-04

How? Somebody’s going to watch a video like http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=176774 and there’s subliminal messages saying “Invade Syria”? Nancy Pelosi’s going to invite these random third party advertisers to write the 2020 Democratic agenda? Rick Wilson will be appointed Secretary of State?

It’s ludicrous. And of course beside the point because Crashtar doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the purity of the Democratic Party. He’s a troll yelling ‘orange man bad’. If Bernie had won the primary, Crashtar would now be cosplaying as an outraged Biden supporter demanding we don’t vote.


yogarfield - 2021-07-18

I always find it hilarious how some of you with really loud political voices completely miss the point. Lincoln Project is an amalgamation of never-Trumpers and former Trump supporters that were snubbed for cabinet positions. Most of the It was a desperate mudsling at Trump because they thought they could save the GOP from fracturing and are just making noise to save face.

A rundown for posterity's sake:

George Conway - Voted for Trump and was passed over for Solicitor General and assistant AG.

Steve Schmidt - He was a never-Trumper, but he's also the reason Sarah Palin was foisted into national politics.

John Weaver - Kasich campaign advisor that signed a lucrative deal to lobby for Rosatom ($350,000 for 6 months) until the optics went all bad and he backed out.

Rick Wilson - A never-Trumper, but he's worked for Guliani for years. Used to post rebel flags on social media.

Jennifer Horn - In 2016, she was all "nah we don't need this Trump guy, vote Clinton". After a bit of resistance from Trump supporters, here's an actual quote:

"There is a lot of excitement in our party right now moving forward.. we feel we're very well positioned to make the argument, as Chris Christie said last night, to prosecute the case against Hillary Clinton."

So yeah, that's the Lincoln Project.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-08-04

>>>>The worst-case scenario isn't that Trump gets reelected, it's that the two parties become the Bush Republicans versus the Trump Republicans in every election from now on.


You're going to have to flesh out that scenario a little, so I can laugh at you some mor


Crackersmack - 2020-08-04

I'm glad I'm able to bring a little laughter into your incredibly depressing, sad life John.


John Holmes Motherfucker - 2020-08-04

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2us838


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