Caminante Nocturno - 2007-11-11
This must've caused at least one traffic accident or spit-take.
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Roachbud - 2007-11-11
a true compassionate conservative
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crote - 2007-11-11
I remember when this happened. It got taken way out of context. Someone made the argument that fiscal conservatives should be pro-choice because abortion decreases the number of people receiving welfare. Bennett responded by saying it's stupid to try and justify abortion by pointing out ways it indirectly affects social ills. The "abort all black babies" thing was just the rather unfortunate counterexample he used to demonstrate his position (or rather the supposed inanity of the position he was opposing).
There are many reasons not to like Bill Bennett, but this isn't one of them. To me this is just another example of the way interest groups and media twist minor gaffes to stir up self-serving controversy.
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crote - 2007-11-11 The difference between those two things being...?
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crote - 2007-11-12 Someone says: "We can reduce welfare spending by aborting the fetuses who are statistically most likely to become poor people."
Bennett responds by saying: "Well, yeah, and we could reduce crime rates by aborting all of the fetuses statistically most likely to be convicted of a crime, too. That doesn't mean we should."
Headline reads: "BILL BENNETT CALLS FOR HOLOCAUST OF BLACK BABIES TO CURB CRIME"
It was a stupid example and an even worse phrasing, but it's hardly the eugenics-fueled comment it was made out to be. I don't feel sorry for BB, but getting indignant over this is stupid.
This is assuming the point of contention here isn't that per capita crime rates are (for whatever reason) higher among blacks than among other segments of the population. If that's what yall are getting huffy about, I've got some bad news for you.
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Aubrey McFate - 2007-11-12 Your point was that it was taken out of context, but even in context it's not that great of a thing to say. Black people may be more statistically likely to commit crime, but the insinuation here is that that is tied in with their being black, not the social station or the culture they live in. Also there's the whole "genocide can possibly mean good things" part of it.
In any case, Bennett is an ignorant right-wing shill and he deserves what he gets.
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Aubrey McFate - 2007-11-12 Oh, and if Bennett had phrased his statement the way you did then there wouldn't have been any trouble. Maybe you're just writing fanfic at this point?
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crote - 2007-11-14 I guess we just see it differently, then.
The more important issue: Is there actually Bill Bennett fan fiction?
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Monchiles Monchiles - 2007-11-11
+5 because I am a rascist bastard.
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NineEleven - 2007-11-12
It's worth a fucking try
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Maggot Brain - 2007-11-12
He got it all wrong, it's every mexican baby.
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Rodents of Unusual Size - 2007-11-12
I love how some people retire from positions of power only to lose the grip they have on their tongues.
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Xenocide - 2007-11-13 ...not to mention reality.
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Frank Rizzo - 2007-11-12
but then who will stand on the corner selling weed!!!!!!!?
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TrafficCone - 2007-11-12
"...in a 1999 Slate.com online discussion that followed the release of a preliminary version of a 2001 paper by Levitt and John J. Donohue III, on which the argument in Freakonomics is based, Levitt specifically noted that "[n]one of our analysis [of abortion and crime] is race-based because the crime data by race is generally not deemed reliable." In a September 30, 2005, response to Bennett's remarks, Levitt reiterated: "Race is not an important part of the abortion-crime argument that John Donohue and I have made in academic papers and that Dubner and I discuss in Freakonomics."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200601190010
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TrafficCone - 2007-11-12
It could be because, having kids that no one cares about increases crime, regardless of race.
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Jeff Fries - 2007-11-14
Well how do we know if we don't try it at least once
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Binro the Heretic - 2008-02-17
(blink)
He didn't just say...
He did?
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Wow.
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