Its not even a stopped clock. Kristol and others advised the negative tactics and cheered the stupid mistakes the campaign made. More and more GOP candidates now (including those also working as part of the campaign) are now not just hiding from Bush visits, but McCain as well.

They're rats deserting a sinking ship, burning the gangplank so as to make sure they don't get blamed when it finally goes under.

:D

Chris Wallace

you almost feel sorry for a ford automobile that was built between 1970 and 1977?

weirdo

My uncle had a Maverick.

The spedometer would go backwards if you drove in reverse.

October 12, 2028. Bill Kristol died this morning in his home. Cause of death: Cancer of the Karma.

He's already old. 20 years is too long. I want him dead, after weeks of horrible pain, next month. Get on that shit, God! I'm agreeing with the sentiment above that Kristol can never get five stars from me. THAT WILL TEACH HIM!

Bill Kistol sways with the tide.

Sort of... He holds up on the Iraq War pretty well, even though other planners (like Fukuyama) jumped ship years ago.

I predict the opposite. This has actually happened to the Republican Party before, but Reagan was able to wed his family values conservatism with his big opponent in the first race, George Bush the Prudent, which is part of his enduring respect among the whole spectrum of the GOP.

Moderate conservatives will try to take over the party again and attempt to forge a new message that will allow them to build a coalition that does not necessarily bow to the needs of a overly zealous far-right religious base. Unfortunately for them, veterans of the Iraq War have been treated very well by the anti-war movement (just using my mom as an example, she works with veterans who struggle with PTSD and she is fiercely anti-war), which makes their desire to motivate working class people with ties to the military a lot more difficult. This is why McCain tries so hard to liken anti-war attitudes in Vietnam with the questioning of the Iraq War's necessity.

Fiscal conservatives dearly want the whackos out of their party and see a loss to Obama as a chance to take the reigns once again. They have a pretty big challenge ahead of them.

I hope you're right, but these days it seems like the moderate voices get shouted down as soon as they try to say anything. I think they'd be better served by forming a third party based on fiscal and foreign policy prudence and leave the GOP to Palin and the other Jesus freaks.

He's not just grotesquely wrong, he's grotesquely, *hilariously* wrong. He's still saying things like "let Palin be Palin" when Palin being Palin is half of McCain's problem right now. Of course, Kristol was a huge Palin backer from the beginning, I guess he's decided this is the ditch he's gonna die in.