Derp.

chris matthews on god:
"he or she--if you really want to get BROAD minded--knew what he was doing, and he did it his way."

As problematic as catholic school generally is, one thing I always liked about it is that they never try to sell you on the idiotic notion that God and science are at odds with each other. In fact, they do just the opposite: you're flat-out told that evolution is real, that it doesn't conflict with the Bible or religious faith at all, and that the scientific method is awesome because it helps us understand how God does his job.

So yay for that. It almost made up for the bi-weekly sessions where they herded us into the chapel and a guy talked for 45 minutes about how abortion is the second holocaust.

I wish Matthews would have an articulate evolutionary biologist on to explain evolutionary questions twits like Tom Tancredo have. 5 for evil.

I should point out that Tancredo is the same guy that advocated genocide for the Muslim world a few years ago. (I'm not even exaggerating on that)

Oh I SEE. According to this fucking douche there is no evidence of speciation at any point in natural history. None. CASE CLOSED PEOPLE. This non-expert, non-biologist know-nothing fuckwig hath spoken unto us with utterly fraudulent authority on a subject several thousand layers over his pointy, pointy little head. He has done this on the assumption that knowing a creation myth by heart is roughly equal, in educational value and scientific qualification, to thoroughly digesting a 600-page scientific treatise and the myriad subsequent contributions by biologists from the late 1800s to now. Without knowing LITERALLY THE FIRST MOTHERFUCKING THING about the theory of evolution, he has declared his sky-ghost creation story to be an equally supported model. By his lights, it stands to reason that anything he personally does not know must therefore be forever unknowable to all humanity and that in that perpetual mystery, must necessarily reside the friendly grandpa that he feels he is owed by the universe.

My blood pressure I swear.

if we humans did shit how the animals do, i would have outcompeted you 'n shit in da wild. y'all be doughy ass nerds who like to spit it but don't wanna live it

yes "there is no god" is an extreme view, thank you Mr. Matthews

I was going to ask "Is Chris Matthews endorsing ID?" and then it changed to, "Oh, Chris Matthews is endorsing ID."

After hammering a guest yesterday on his anti-science views, Matthews just sits back and lets a former Congressman make blatantly false statements that completely distort the truth such as the one about micro/macro evolution, species change, and that there's an equal number of scientists endorsing ID as endorsing Creationism. Even without a scientific background, Matthews should have known that was some made-up shit.

Evil. Also:

If evolution is true (which is most definitely is), then there was no Adam and Eve. There was no Garden of Eden. That means the story of original sin never happened. Therefore if Jesus existed, then he did not come to Earth to save us from our sin.

It would seem that traditional Christianity and evolution are mutually exclusive.

Three stars because they both pretty have no idea what the hell they're talking about.

Can science somehow pass a law that makes it so that anytime someone says "There are no examples of transitional fossils", a reputable scientist gets to ram a plaster cast of an Archaeopteryx fossil up their ass, sideways?

I suppose it's appropriate that theories about carbon dioxide warming the earth are almost as old as evolutionary theory. (See: Joseph Fourrier, John Tyndall, Svante Arrenhius)

At the four minute mark, you can actually hear Chris suck in the spittle around his mouth.

And ID only means "Evolution With God's Help" when people say it means that. The nice thing about a politically motivated and dubious theory is that you can actually change what the theory is with every conversation you're in.

Creationism is not a theory it is a religion. We have discovered transitional species, probably thousands at this point. Neither of them know what Creationism asserts and neither of them understand Evolution.

These two are being watched by millions of people who don't bother to learn about any of this. There is no contest: creationism is false, spreads lies, ignorance, and NOTHING of value to ANYONE. I talked to a co-worker around a month ago who didn't know squat about either as well as our hosts and thought Creationism belonged alongside Evolution in schools.

This issue obviously needs more attention and exposure by people who know what the theory of Evolution and the cult of Creationism entail. It makes me feel terrible that someone might think of this as a good "debate". There needs to be a debate channel... there needs to be some kind of popularization of intelligent discourse. I'm getting fed up with hearing shit like this.

Stars are for evil.

i hate both of these assholes

P.S. there is a really creepy ad I'm getting on this page where John McCain's head just rises up with this deathly grin on his face....