i dont think you grasp what this person is saying - not that there shouldn't be biblical scholarship, but that it should be understood that it's a complete myth

Mindblowing revelation there, chairman.

Did you just 5-star your own submission, gom?

Yeah seriously, I thought 5ing your own submissions was taboo.

One star for balance.

Well, why would he submit it, if he didn't think it deserved 5 stars?

This is the internet. If the site manager didn't want submitters being able to upvote or star their own submissions, it wouldn't be possible, right?

And perhaps it's there in case the submitter has "poster's remorse" and wants to downgrade what s/he now sees as an affront to the senses as well as the intellect. Or, conversely, the submitter might now see the submission as even MORE brilliant or insightful than when submitted, and without this means of expression, s/he would need medication to cope.

I say it should remain possible to do, just to limit any need for liability insurance.

oh no you onevoted my video whatever will i do :'(

Dammit and I just accidentally five-starred my own video too. :( :(

But yes, what Tuan Jim said.

a few points

In no part of this does he paint the bible to be a "coherent document." Quite the opposite in fact, he dedicates a portion of the lecture to pointing out all the bits that got left out of the current incarnation bible.

The point he was making is not that the bible has no bearing on modern values but rather that it shouldn't because it is largely irrelevant to modern life.

Re: themes of good an evil, fear of chaos in japan... have you actually read any japanese literature? Theyre crazy for that shit, im guessing because of Shintoism. Pretty much every bit of japanese literature ive read are morality plays about people acting imorraly causing disorder, feeling ashamed about it then being severely punished. Check out anything eji yoshikawa wrote, or the tale of the genji.

"The point he was making is not that the bible has no bearing on modern values but rather that it shouldn't because it is largely irrelevant to modern life."


Just because we now define our relationship to nature with technology does not mean that a document that was central to the lives of millions of many of our ancestors for 2,000 years is no longer "relevant." Just because you are an atheist of the Dawkins variety and you *GASP* realize that the Bible is a myth doesn't mean the text of the Bible isn't inherently connected to everyday experience in ways that are not superficially apparent.

Out of curiosity, baleen, do you apply lessons from other cultural myths to your life as well, or just biblical ones?

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Out of curiosity, baleen, do you apply lessons from other cultural myths to your life as well, or just biblical ones?"


I suppose I do, just as the Bible is an amalgam of many cultures' myths.

However the fact that I studied Tibetan mythology for years, but never went to a Christian seminary, does not mean that the Bible is equally influential to Sanskrit texts in the Anglo-derived culture that I was born into. As I approach other mythologies far distant from my own, I am doing so as an outsider looking in; it is seductive and mystical rather than part of the foundation of my language and culture. Mongolians converting to Christianity most likely have the same relationship to the Bible. Their local faith is dead to them, but they cannot possibly understand the complex theology and cultural associations we have toward Jews and Christians. It's completely beyond them.

Of course, that's how cultures evolve, that is the process of osmosis that drives our social being, just as culture renews and redefines its relationships with its great works, such as the Bible.

The small-tent Atheism of Hitchens and Dawkins recognizes the important of the Bible as a continuum in our culture, but I think it seems axiomatic to claim that the historical accuracy of the Bible is dubious. It's a potshot at fundamentalists, yet theologians have been saying the same thing to fundies for a long time. It has been the official position of many major churches for longer than this lecturer has been alive.

sorry about the crappiness of that post I'm on my way out the door..

Come on Mike, that's a little too soon.

Faith just died, like, last night.

lol

why what does that tell you

for some reason when i scrolled down i thought someone made a cock with text because of

Gommorrah
lol


now i cant unthink that.