spikestoyiu - 2009-08-20
Gina is so outgunned here by Cyborg that she looks like a fish out of water, so if you were to judge her solely on this performance, you wouldn't think she was anything special. This fight aside, she's an extremely talented striker and grappler and much stronger than she appears to be here.
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spikestoyiu - 2009-08-20 I will agree with you on the line about the guillotine, but I will disagree with you about the keylock; it's both an Americana and a keylock. Kimuras are also technically keylocks.
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Gayperson - 2009-08-20 oh god, bodog was the worst. it's funny how hyped the commentators try to be about nothing. "JESUS TITTY-FUCKING CHRIST! GINA CARANO IS BACKING UP! OH MY GAWWWD! CYBORG LOOKS LIKE SHE'S GOING TO DROP IN TO SHOOT!"
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Richmond - 2009-08-21 Huh!
And here I always thought the difference between a keylock and an Americana was the offensive grip position. But I've looked it up, and you're right!
Thanks, PoEtv, for another contribution to my ongoing education! Is there anything this site can't do?
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spikestoyiu - 2009-08-21 Your grip is actually the same for both an Americana and a Kimura. Even a toehold is technically a keylock. I wouldn't worry too much about it; I'd guess half the blue belts I train with don't know that.
Also, I swear I forgot to include "decent" before grappler. Her grappling is most definitely far behind her striking.
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Billie_Joe_Buttfuck - 2009-08-20
HOLY FUCK
STARS
Really, there's usually this moment when two guys square off and they size each other up, and then shit happens.
This video is how all MMA fights should go. Fucking entertaining.
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Gayperson - 2009-08-20
i didn't like this fight. no doubt, they're both pretty talented (cyborg much more so) but watching them scramble nervously and almost pull hair made them both look kinda talentless. maybe that's a problem w/women's mma... the top 2 were both used to out-sizing and bullying their opponents but against each other they just looked like two lizards rolling around.
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MongoMcMichael - 2009-08-20
Isn't this from that website where the winner violates the loser with a strap-on? It's just as one-sided, anyway.
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dancingshadow - 2009-08-20
Cyborg is on a different level as far as strength and agression go.
http://fightticker.com/files/images/cris_cyborg_santos_flexing .jpg
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Syd Midnight - 2009-08-21 Doesn't MMA pretty much guarantee they can't use steroids, so you know their muscles were honestly chiseled? Because damn.
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Richmond - 2009-08-21 Yup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_CVyQi7_c
Yikes.
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Dr Dim - 2009-08-21 Many, many people on the sauce in MMA, not just to get bulky but to recover properly from training. In shows here all they care about is that you don't have hep or AIDS. Even in the UFC the testing only happens close to a fight usually, so they can time their cycles so all the metabolites are out of their system by the time they're tested. Josh Barnett just got done for steroids (again) because they happened to test him two weeks early. Not everyone is using but it's far from unusual.
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Scrotum H. Vainglorious - 2009-08-20
Ok, let's see her take on a T-100.
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Walt Henderson - 2009-08-20
I had my fingers crossed for Gina going in, but I can't say I'm at all surprised. Good fight.
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j lzrd / swift idiot - 2009-08-21
You know, I could say so much, but I'm just gonna go :D for Girlfights and laugh at this talk about Keyholes and Americana or something.
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