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erratic - 2011-07-28

As bullshit as the point of this video is, it would be interesting to know the story behind those photos


Xenocide - 2011-07-28

They had Turks! And if you have a Turk, your first instinct is to photograph him.


Nithing - 2011-07-28

A whole bunch of different nationalist groups, from Irish to Indians, signed up with Hitler in the hope of smashing the British empire. You won't find that in many of their histories though.


garcet71283 - 2011-07-28

The "kill everyone who isn't German and some who are" thing really didn't start in full until the late 30's and into the 40's.

Hitler and his cronies made it very clear there were stages of escalation that would eventually encompass all religions and non-aryans in an effort to create a homogeneous religion/culture centered on the state.

Don't think it really could have caught on otherwise, since the later stuff was batshit insane. (more)

Kinda like Scientology in alot of ways...


IrishWhiskey - 2011-08-01

Actually both the Irish and Indians helped the allies and rejected Hitler's offers. There may have been specific groups within those nationalities that did otherwise, but the same is true of Brits and Americans as well.


Toenails - 2011-07-28

Old photographs without any context?

That is all the evidence I need to be convinced.

BTW, the information in this video is inaccurate, as the Klu Klux Klan isn't a racist organization either.

Proof:

http://www.kkklan.com/negrok1.gif


smellslikefish - 2011-07-28

And even blacks!See there's one right there, circled in red!


Night Train to Mundo Fine - 2011-07-28

There were half-African German citizens from colonies in Africa who served in the army. Black Germans were also often sterilized by the state. There was probably a lot of overlap between the two.

It's incredibly sad.


Oscar Wildcat - 2011-07-28

Wow! @ .41, is a super rare picture of Andreas Orukumbe, leader of the Schwarzkommando. He plays an important role post war in the race to recover the V2, and that special 00000 model...


Merzbau - 2011-07-28

i see what you did there


BillLumbergh - 2011-08-01

someone's been readin BOOKS


TeenerTot - 2011-07-28

This made me laugh and I'm not sure why.


SteamPoweredKleenex - 2011-07-28

When did the word "Nazis" become the most inappropriately apostrophed word ever?


Robin Kestrel - 2011-07-28

As bad as Hitler was, he still was better than people that use grocers' apostrophes.


Panzerschlag - 2011-07-28

There's a lot more argument over what 'true' National Socialism is than most people realize. It's like the endless warring over what constitutes 'true metal', but with more racism. Add in Aryanism and things just get really weird really quickly.

Aside from that, whoever made this video lacks the rhetorical skills of a true Nazi. There should be condemnations of the Bürgers, using words like "degenerate" and "subhuman". There are none. This disappoints me.


boggy84 - 2011-08-12

nazis should not be allowed to exist, you and your kind are a blot on history and you and all of your companions should be hanged like your worthless philosophical progenitors.


MongoMcMichael - 2011-07-28

0:51: "Hitler was never racist against any race other then Jewish people."

Oh, that makes it okay, then.


LetsFistAgain - 2011-07-28

I guess killing six million people is cool, as long as you dont get all racial about it.


dairyqueenlatifah - 2011-07-30

Did you forget? That's all made up!

Not one single Jew died by Nazi hands, ever, and WWII didn't happen.

It's all a Hollywood Zionist fairytale.


memedumpster - 2011-07-28

Ugh.


EvilHomer - 2011-07-28

The Nazis were "racist", in the sense that they believed race divided people more than class or creed, but it's not like they went around claiming the Aryan race was better than everyone else. Well, OK, they did, but they were more than willing to give props to other races for their own cultural or genetic strengths. For example, Hitler loved Muslims because he believed (perhaps rightly) that they were tougher, fiercer, and more willing to die for collectivist utopias than many Germanics neutered by centuries of "Xtian" (and Jooish) pussification. Now whether this means Nazis weren't racist, or were simply a more nuanced form of racism than your average, trenchcoats-and-pitchforks Hollywood style depictions seem to suggest, is up for debate.

Also, I could be wrong, but it seems like a lot of these photos are pulled from the various Waffen SS "foreign divisions". Yes, the SS did admit foreign nationals into their ranks, and yes, the upper levels of Nazi party leadership went to great lengths to "prove" that these racial groups were worthy of being official National Socialist killing machines. However, it's worth pointing out that the decision to admit non-Aryans (even "Aryan Aryans", like the Indians) into the ranks of the SS was only done in response to the ass-pounding the Nazis had been taking during the war. They needed more troops, so naturally, ideology took a backseat to military necessity. The same sort of thing happened with the Soviet Union- official anti-Orthodox and anti-nationalist ("White") policy was allowed to lapse as the war progressed, to the point where Red Army soldiers were even allowed to wear crosses and sing pre-Revolutionary Russian anthems if it made them fight better. That doesn't mean Stalin was pro-Christian or counter-revolutionary, it just means that opportunistic madmen are OPPORTUNISTIC madmen, first and foremost, and willing to fudge the details in order to achieve their goals.


joelkazoo - 2011-07-28

Thanks, Evil. That was very educational.


BorrowedSolution - 2011-07-28

Also, didn't the SS employs Jews to rat on other Jews? So that means they didn't want to kill Jews or..?


CIWB - 2011-07-28

Isn't it pretty clear that the Nazis were racists, though? More subtly racist than "everyone who's not Aryan is scum who should die", but still. I'm reading Richard Evans' "The Third Reich In Power" right now, and I'm pretty sure I remember a quote from Hitler that explicitly described National Socialism as a "racist" ideology.


The McK - 2011-07-28

Kinda missing the whole point of EH's spiel, which is that political groups will break from their stated political ideology if it suits their situational needs, often even as they continue to espouse that ideology to placate the mass of followers who aren't paying attention.

Make your own cheap joke about modern politics here.


15th - 2016-10-25

>>Now whether this means Nazis weren't racist, or were simply a more nuanced form of racism than your average, trenchcoats-and-pitchforks Hollywood style depictions seem to suggest, is up for debate.

Yes, the Nazis painted with a fine brush. Hard to say if they were racist at all.


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