no it hasn't.
watch the original and then say that.

5 for el crappo

I always assumed the first one was parody to begin with.

tu nombre es el crappo.

Sorry for starring my own submission, that wasn't what I meant to do.

Yeah, this is just Carpenter being Carpenter, one of the greatest. I love this movie, the bad effects help make it for me.

El stoopo.

No wrath, and that's coming from a pretty big Carpenter fan. I actually don't see why LA gets so much hate. I believe them both to be fine movies.

Cena_El_Crappazon

I remember seeing LA in the theatre with my mom, since I was like 15 or so when it came out and needed parental guidance. I was super into Snake when I was a kid, so much so that my parents bought me NY on VHS because it was the only movie I ever wanted to rent. But I don't think my mom had ever watched NY, and she was laughing the entire way through, since she lived right on Santa Monica, and my Surge Cola-addled mind was like "MOM SHOOSH THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!"

I guess it depends on how much you liked Big Trouble, if you believe that Jack and Snake are the same (I do and so does Hideo Kojima, maybe, I dunno if he ever said that): NY was dark and gritty but not without its dystopian humor whereas LA played up the laffs the same way as Big Trouble did. It really just boils down to what you prefer. As a kid, I hated LA but once I figured out what my mom already knew, I think I understood what Carpenter was going for in the first place.

(but I won't deny that, no matter what your mode of transportation, covering that much of LA in the time he has would be impossible, with or without an impromptu basketball game) :)

I certainly don't think Jack and Snake are the same. They have very different personalities, plus Jack has two eyes. Escape From LA was just Kurt and John having fun. Those who don't take it too seriously can feel that.

True, but time-wise Big Trouble took place before NY. The Kojima thing comes from Raiden (Jack) and Snake both being more-or-less the same person.. I probably smoked way too much pot and came up with this.

Not to mention that MGS Jack, much like Big Trouble Jack, likes to make wisecracking jokes and movie references, none of which Snake (MGS or NY/LA) gets or cares about. So if they're not the same they're both eskimo bros if you will.

"infinite zest
True, but time-wise Big Trouble took place before NY. "



Especially if you factor in the fact that it was originally set in the 19th century.

where does Captain Ron go on the timeline?

I'm with IZ on this, especially if it includes Captain Ron.

Alright, now you all have just gone completely Overboard.

Captain Ron makes more sense than Jack Burton. He only has one eye, and I checked it, they both wear their patches over the left eye.

Captain Ron was probably the DNA that made both Snake and Jack

Would you believe I'd never seen this one until yesterday? I liked it a lot.

Yeah, it's more tongue-in-cheek and the cameos are pretty hammed up, especially Bruce Campbell's (but when does he not ham things up in cameos?) but the plot itself I actually thought was better and it made more sense than NY, at least to me. Also the technology used is surprisingly accurate for 2010.

That sentence pretty much applies to every movie ever, but it'd be like saying Star Wars Episode 2 had a lack of Neeson. They done died yo.

That's not a very high bar.

Surrogate Stars for that short but unbelievably sweet story. Sounds like we'd get along swimmingly. *****