Toenails - 2012-06-07
You know, since this is Deep Space Nine, you'd think they'd take the time out of their day to find nine stupid moments.
But whatever, SPOILER:
it's some crappy D&D puzzle. If that's the worst they had then they never had my baby Voyager.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YuodWzQkM0
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Kabbage - 2012-06-07
Brutal
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gambol - 2012-06-07
everyone who thinks that DS9 was good is wrong
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Dr. Lobotomy - 2012-06-07 DS9 had its moments, mostly involving Garak. But they'd usually bring it back down the very next week with holosuite episodes, baseball or the whole prophecy BS.
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Kabbage - 2012-06-08 Garak in Pale Moonlight alone justified the entire run of Deep Space 9.
I also really liked that speech he made at the end of the last episode, about how generations of artists and progressive minds had been lost forever, that they had lost something that could never been found again.
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Bort - 2012-06-08 A couple more good things about DS9 that RoUS left out:
- Rom's growth from aspiring to own his brother's bar like a good Ferengi, to realizing he could be something more (all very reminiscent of Nog's arc).
- Major Kira as a religious person who honestly tried to use her faith to become a better person. This set her up as an excellent contrast with Kai Winn.
- Gul Dukat: argue all you want whether he was a good guy or a bad guy, he was ultimately a servant of the Cardassian Empire. From that perspective he was Winston Churchill: beloved if you are an Englishman or an American, hated if you are a German or an Iraqi. He was also the Michael Scott of Cardassians, making lots of bad calls because he wanted to be loved by the people he was ruling over.
- Sisko as the contrast to Gul Dukat: Sisko didn't want to be anything more than a quiet administrative force who helped the Bajorans get on their feet again, forces outside his control made him a central Bajoran figure, and the Bajoran people eventually showered him with more love than he ever wanted for not abusing his power. Gul Dukat never forgave him for it.
- General Martok was adorable as the Al Bundy-like head of the Klingon Fleet, always having to deal with some new indignity, many of them revolving around his wife.
- Sisko in general. If you've watched the show at all you have your own opinions, but as far as I'm concerned, he was aces.
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memedumpster - 2012-06-08 Oh yeah, and Dax totally makes out with another chick.
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BHWW - 2012-06-08 Let's not forget that one episode that was basically Brigadoon except with a whole planet instead of a village and no musical numbers.
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FABIO - 2012-06-08 Enterprise better than TNG? whaaaaaa?
PINEAPPLE CAKE SUBPLOT
That is all you need to know.
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-08 For me, DS-9 was shaping up to be an interesting analogue for the Israel/Palestine situation in the Middle East, but then they had the episode where they lost Kai Opaka (whichever Bajoran pope was the fat one) to a planet where if you got killed, nanites would revive you and you could get killed again. It was a punishment for some warring types left there.
She had been shaping up as an interesting character, then a stupid MacGuffin took her out of the picture. Then DS-9 decided it wanted to be Babylon-5, and kind of shoved the whole Bajor/Cardassia stuff into the background so they could blow stuff up when they weren't just making crap up as they went along.
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Bort - 2012-09-12 I don't know, I thought Kai Opaka was created to be destroyed: she lent Sisko the credibility he needed to be tolerated at all, and once he was in the door, they needed to get rid of her to force Sisko to have to weather the shit himself.
Really, the entire "rebuild Bajor" arc had to play itself out: if they just maintained the status quo where Bajor never got any better, it would mean that the Federation's mission there was a failure. About halfway through the second season it was starting to feel that way, so I'm glad Bajor got its shit together before the series even hit its halfway point.
There was only one episode with space Palestinians, the Skrreea. These folks:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Skrreea
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dairyqueenlatifah - 2012-06-07
The ACTING! tag really belongs here.
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Kabbage - 2012-06-08 Seconded. Although I like to imagine that Star Trek is in fact an insanely repressive dystopian future where everybody is forced to act a certain way all the time, because it's more fair and civilized, and any kind of genuine enthusiasm or excitement has become completely alien to them.
Like, for example, I imagine that men can only get an erection through use of an insane ballet of mental escapism and complete physical detatchment, terrified that they might ever even once outwardly imply that they consider an object of affection in any way that was not absolutely even-handed and politically correct.
Indeed, the REAL Dominion War is the internal one raging within them all, against an unquenchable, fearsome, unstoppable Jem Hardar assault armada of FEELINGS
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rastarat - 2012-06-08
It's a space station. These are the rejects and misfits who are too incompetent to actually pilot any space craft. Imagine for a moment the smell of that place.
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Corpus Delectable - 2012-06-08
If ever a scene needed Worf, this is that scene!
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Nikon - 2012-06-08
They had some very good episodes.
This is not one of them.
Move along home.
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Lef - 2012-06-08
5 stars for Nana Visitor.
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Syd Midnight - 2012-06-10 I liked Kira because they finally did a tough woman character right.
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sosage - 2012-06-08
You'd think to avoid fuck ups, they'd make sure they did the hop and rhyme one at a time.
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Bort - 2015-02-23 Did you really want to see that?
... come to think of it, there must be someone, somewhere, who masturbates furiously to this scene and only wishes it had gone on longer.
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Change - 2012-06-08
All five stars for the "Lemonade Stand: Sell Lemonade just like Martin Luther King Jr. and Mahatma Gandhi" ad at the top of the page.
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Caminante Nocturno - 2012-06-09
Everybody knows Stargate was better!
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SteamPoweredKleenex - 2012-06-10 Stargate ages better, and they paid a LOT more attention to their continuity.
Also, to its credit, Stargate never did episodes inspired by movies that were popular at the time. DS-9 decided Bashir would be a James Bond fan after Goldeneye got big, and Voyager tried to do a dinosaur episode when Jurassic Park 2 was about to be released.
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Bort - 2015-02-23 They did do at least a couple episodes based on the movie "Stargate".
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