Different Era, Different Mores.

Black and white? No thanks

Technically, it's a tinted film. I find the sepia silent films to be pretty fascinating in general.

I submitted this because it's a part of film history. The sets were destroyed a few years after this, and many historians mourn the loss. The technical aspects of the film made it the biggest project that had been filmed up until that time. I heard about it while researching famous and/or haunted sites in SoCal that don't exist anymore. It's fascinating, though. The film is divided between the Story of Jesus, Cyrus the Great, Catherine de Medici and the Huguenot killings in France, and a modern day (1916) story of an innocent young man accused of murder by evil capitalists. It was a pretty crazily dramatic film for the time it was made.

I had forgotten DW Griffith was the director of Birth of a Nation, which I never bothered to watch, but according to the wiki article, he made this (essentially a heavy handed morals movie heavy on the Jesus) to woo back audiences after accusations of racism from the NAACP.

In an amazing twist of irony, the film's title refers to both the themes of each storyline in the film AND the fact that DW Griffith felt that all the film critics calling him racist were in fact guilty of intolerance.

History is mind blowing. But back to the Boy. In the "modern" storyline segment, I'll just quote wikipedia's summary:

"The American "Modern" story (c. 1914) demonstrates how crime, moral puritanism, and conflicts between ruthless capitalists and striking workers help ruin the lives of marginal Americans. To get more money for his spinster sister's charities, a mill owner orders a 10% pay cut to his workers' wages. An ensuing workers' strike is crushed and The Boy and The Dear One make their way to another city; she lives in poverty and he turns to crime. After they marry, he tries to break free of crime but is framed for theft by his ex-boss. While he is in prison, his wife must endure their child being taken away by the same "moral uplift society" that instigated the strike. Upon his release from prison, he discovers his ex-boss attempting to rape his wife. A struggle begins and in the confusion the girlfriend of the boss shoots and kills the boss. She escapes and The Boy is convicted and sentenced to the gallows. A kindly policeman helps The Dear One find the real killer and together they try to reach the Governor in time so her reformed husband will not be hanged."

Also, there's a pretty fun Babylonian orgy scene.

Who could have guessed MB would be pushing the old "calling out racism is the REAL intolerance" canard?

It's a shock I know.

DW Griffith made a movie portraying the KKK as heroes and blacks as rapists.

I told you political opinions you disagreed with and support the president of the Unites States of America.

Those are two very different things, though it doesn't surprise me that you can't tell the difference.

It also doesn't surprise me you don't see the irony of being intolerant of conservatives, because you don't view it as intolerance. Just like DW Griffith didn't see his racism as being intolerant.

We have come into a level of irony I didn't even know was possible!

Nobody’s oppressing you for conservatism or even Trumpism, you crybaby. They are sick of your repeated race baiting and flooding the hopper with alt-right shit with titles like “Vapid black feminist embarrasses herself”

Here’s how it went last time we tried to be nice to you: http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=173569 MB started with "let's be friends" and ended with, and I quote: "You want to bitch and moan about oh white people are so mean to us and they just don't get it? Try growing up in a family where your father was actually doing his job."

I actually never submitted a video called "Vapid Black Feminist Embarrasses Herself".

I am not alt-right.

I am not accusing you of oppressing me for supporting Trump.

What I am pointing out is that you don't read very carefully and you interpret everything I write as racist.

When I talked about my father, I did so because I think it's an epidemic in this country for fathers to be absentee and I'm sick of it being overlooked as a key factor in why people blame the government when really they just had the misfortune to be raised in a one parent household. What that usually means, not always, but usually, is that there are a lot of disadvantages and more than anything, a huge chip on the shoulder of the people who didn't have a father growing up. I might have sounded mean, but that wasn't my intent. It was pride in the fact that I was raised in a family where hard work meant something and taking a handout was considered extremely shameful.

I come from a family where on one side, people escaped a communist takeover in Cuba. Relatives of ours died in the revolution who didn't make it out alive. I have very strong beliefs about socialism and communism and I don't equate those movements as being anti racist. I also don't think capitalism is inherently racist. I think those ideas simply don't work on any logistical, data-oriented level.

I don't think racism can be attributed to the news stories I submit here. You are also overlooking your own proclivity to have emotional tantrums where you or those who agree with you, scream at me for perceived racism without listening to anything regarding context or intent.

Oh sorry, I looked it up and the title was "British Feminist Demonstrates Her Ability To State Inane Vacuous Nonsense" and the feminist in question only HAPPENED to be Black. By a wild coincidence.

See that's the problem, you're not some innocent victim of circumstance and those mean old libs. You're a liar who keeps changing his background story and going through the same boring cycle, every time: start innocuous, then introduce a few 'borderline' videos like this one, then go all out attacking Blacks, women, transexuals and flooding the hopper; then when you're called out on it write a long weepy self-pitying screed and flounce off the site for a few months.

First of all, the real problem here is your paranoia is off the scale. You interpret everything as an attack. If I say "there's a problem in my own community" you accuse me of racism. (ie gangs and yes there is a fucking gang problem in this country that affects minorities and assuming that it's racist to admit this fact is insane) I distinctly remember this conversation and shaking my damn head wondering how you and people like you even eat breakfast without being offended.

Oh and I never changed my background story. What the fuck are you even talking about? I am of both Mexican and Cuban heritage. I have mentioned this before, and I have never seen another member of this board who was confronted over what race they are like I have been. So fuck you for that nonsense. The reason I brought up my heritage at all was because I was accused by insane people like yourself of being a white supremacist, which is so insane I don't even have words for it.

If I submit a video with a black woman, I must be attacking black women everywhere, huh? I have news for you. I think Candace Owens is one of the smartest people in the country. I adore her. I'm sure you think she's a white supremacist, too.

Because you are so brainwashed it isn't even funny.

Aaaan there's the weepy self pity, the "everybody's out to get me".

MB's words speak for themselves here. But it is funny that he admits to posting "British Feminist Demonstrates Her Ability To State Inane Vacuous Nonsense", because he was just lying about it a little higher up.

Anyway for the avoidance of doubt here are more of his little gems:

"Islam is fucking mind poison." ... "They're kind as long as they know you aren't something they are trained to despise (Jew, gay, atheist, apostate, anyone who criticizes them or insinuates their cult isn't perfect)" ... "The West is culturally superior. If you disagree, feel free to move back to Saudi."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=171320

"Fox News was the ONLY media outlet that included the part where other speakers talked before Candace, which is not good. It means leftist media is very much trying to distort the narrative." ... "Nationalism is nothing more than a mixture of patriotism and putting the needs of your own citizens above those of other countries and there is nothing wrong with that."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=171230

"So anyway, after I stayed on your planet for a while, I realized that you had a nigger problem..HAAAA! HAA! JUST KIDDING!"
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=167283

"I hate to tell you this buttercup, but African gang violence is soaring in Australia."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=170992

"It's like someone watched that one episode of Frasier. You know, the one where the black lady assistant moves in on Frasier's turf so he gets her set up with her own show out of white guilt... And then they got really wasted and wrote this."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=171699

"They need a separate award for Best White Guilt Movie of the year. The Blind Side and Crash could have won those easy. "
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=170548

"Obama started those camps and Hillary would have continued them and called them daycare centers and Dems would have clapped like the idiot sheep they are"
https://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=168496

"Next up, CVS closes its stores for Racial Sensitivity Day??"
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=166866

"Also the Muslims that say they would willingly disown a family member for becoming an apostate/non-believer"
[what, all of them?]
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=171600

"I also one starred this. It's not remotely clever and Tucker is not a white supremacist. But if you criticize BLM, or call any black person out on any of their own racism, you must be a Nazi. This is why the left won't win the next election."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=170965

"I think trans activists have just gone too far with their demands. There is social justice and then there's trying to change the very fabric of reality."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=164378

"Gillette fucked itself over by handing an ad campaign about masculinity over to a third wave feminist. What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Fucking idiots. Because if there is anyone who is going to paint straight men in a positive light, it's a woke white lady. The entire point of the commercial is that men are inherently unable to behave themselves, that the majority of our behavior counts as "toxic" and the purposeful misinterpretation of healthy male behavior (kids wrestling around is conflated with bullying) is even more disgusting. They also edited the commercial while still getting likes and views. In the original version there was a black rapper shown on television being lewd with women and objectifying them. They edited that part OUT but kept the white men being total assholes. The part where the guy barks is also weird because they use an actual dog bark sound effect. Because men are DOGS. Get it? Ugh. "
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=170068

This is either the second or third time you have posted that list of quotes. It is amazing that you have kept following my posts this closely. It must mean you really love me!

I already reacted to this when you posted the list before, but I will say that with more than a few of these, I was actually making fun of racism. Which is so bizarre and hilarious and ultimately scary that you can't understand that. You are either so far gone with your extremist, and quite frankly, fanatic level of hatred towards anyone that disagrees with you politically or you realize how ludicrous all of this is and you shitpost it anyway.

I also find it ironic you give Muslims a pass on their hatred of gays, apostates, atheists, and Jews. To answer your question, killing apostates is enshrined by Mohammad himself. and atheism is considered a form of apostasy. So yes, technically, all of them.

But don't take my word for it. Feel free to ask a Muslim his or her thoughts on gays, Jews, or apostates and I'm sure they will all tell you how much they love those groups of people. I'm the enemy here. I say bad things that you don't want to be real.

But they are real. That's real life. You are in denial of reality itself. I don't feel ashamed of my posts. So stop pretending as if you are leading a revolution.

But hey, let's open it up for discussion. Who here thinks that list is evidence that I'm evil incarnate enough so that you have to post it three times?

As far as the feminist video you referenced, you'll forgive me if I actually forgot about it because I don't memorize everything I post as well as you do. Jesus, dude. Get a grip.

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen: the real MB comes out again.

To take this latest racist talking point of yours:

> I also find it ironic you give Muslims a pass on their hatred of gays, apostates, atheists, and Jews. To answer your question, killing apostates is enshrined by Mohammad himself. and atheism is considered a form of apostasy. So yes, technically, all of them.

> But don't take my word for it. Feel free to ask a Muslim his or her thoughts on gays, Jews, or apostates and I'm sure they will all tell you how much they love those groups of people."

As a matter of fact, living in the UK I have quite a few Muslim friends, none of whom are anti-Semitic or anti-gay, none of whom have any problem with my atheism. Far from being "reality itself", your alt-right generalizations as tired and hateful and recycled as you.

You're right. Muslims are the most tolerant group of people on the planet. They never persecute anyone. Their countries are utopias where gays live in freedom and atheists and apotates live without any fear. They hold hands in the streets and sing out loud their non belief.

It's a lovely fairy tale. It's also rubbish.

To me, you are an example of leftist hysteria. You see racism everywhere. You interpret everything as racist. You overreact to literally everything I say as if it's proof of some vast racism on my part, rather than just bluntly telling you how life is. It's not proving anything other than how obsessive you are. It would be laughable if it wasn't an indication of a larger, disturbing and downright frightening social movement with militant radicalism latching onto demonizing anyone you deem as racist, regardless of facts.

It's all in your head, dude.

Try to give people the benefit of a doubt. Not everyone on the right is a white supremacist Nazi and to go about life with that expectation is just not living in reality.

You see, your mistake here is to try to have it both ways at once.

You can't credibly call yourself a victim of "leftist hysteria" that "sees racism everywhere" then in the same breath denounce Muslims as full of "hatred of gays, apostates, atheists, and Jews... yes, all of them".

It's like getting caught picking someone's pocket and saying "my hand's not in his pocket, you're hysteric" when you're still visibly digging around in there. It just doesn't work.

Yes, we mustn't criticize the perfection that is Islam. That would just be so mean. It's mean. It's mean to point out that in their religion, they are required to kill people who leave that religion.

Sorry not sorry

Here we see MB go from "It's all in your head dude" straight to "I'm racist and proud."

I'm proud I don't give Muslims a pass on killing gays, apostates and atheists. Not to mention the genocide and persecution of Jews, Yazidis and Christians in the Middle East.

You don't care about anyone, Hazelnut. You just want the rush. This behavior is addictive. You prove all my points about this not being about actual racism. Has anyone ever discriminated against you for the color of your skin? I'm just curious.

You just want to scream at people to convince a crowd that you are moral. That's what your movement comes down to. You don't care about people who are actually being persecuted. You just repeat dogma like a good little robot. You get patted on the head and encouraged by others. You're part of a group. You belong. It's a rush. You feel empowered not because you are actually standing up for anyone but because you are shouting people down that have legitimate points.

It's just the same thing over and over again. Scream at someone for perceived racism. It's boring. It's all based upon your paranoia. Yes, it's in your head. But more insidious than that, I don't think you can differentiate real racism from perceived racism and that is a real problem. It means you have no filter. You want to see racism. You look for it. It excites you. The thought of getting to be the good guy that shouts someone down elevates you in the eyes of others. It's so thrilling, is it not?

You seriously need counseling.

Listen to yourself, little racist. Who’s doing the screaming? Who’s living in a fantasy land?

I wasn’t kidding about having Muslim friends. I am grossed out, saddened and annoyed when you cast them as intolerant murderers. But I don’t get a ‘rush’ out of that, because I know you’re just a little shit clinging to the world view of alt-right assholes. I’m genuinely sorry for you. You still need to fuck off.

Well your friends better not say that too loudly. If they don't believe in killing apostates, or in throwing them out of their lives at the very least, they are not living by the word of the Prophet.

The thing about this level of thinking is that it is incredibly naive of you to think that Islam is going to magically change. Do you think this is common in Islam? Muslims don't care about your rights and they view you, typically, as being beneath them. You are a nonbeliever. If Muslims were the majority in the UK, gays would be in concentration camps. No Muslim country allows gays to be outspoken or publicly allow them to have any amount of freedom whatsoever. Stop pretending that you live in a world where this is the case. Every majority Muslim country oppresses its minorities, far far more than their Western counterparts. That's why Western countries are superior to Muslim majority countries. We have freedom of religion, freedom of expression, freedom of press. They do NOT have these concepts in the Middle East of Africa where Muslims are the majority. You live in your own pretend world if you want to.

Let's say Muslims migrate to the UK more until they become the majority. Can you honestly say that violence against Jews won't go way up? It already has in Europe. Muslims are defacing synagogues and churches all across the continent. They don't want Christianity or Judaism to exist. They don't have any respect for the rights of people to worship freely. If they did, THEIR COUNTRIES WOULDN'T HAVE COMMITTED GENOCIDE.

Oh but your friends are nice so let's just have millions of Muslims pour into Europe. Everything will be fine. They won't call for the deaths of gays, Jews, apostates, atheists...NONE of them will call for Sharia law in the UK.

You are a patsy.

The irony of all this is the same Trumpians pushing the "Muslims are murderers" lie are also pushing "Mexicans are rapists". Take a look at the company you keep.

Yeah, ditto. When you're watching your friends sentenced to death for infidelity, eating bacon or for being gay, don't say I didn't warn you.

Because LOL it's such a stereotype Muslims hate gays,m Jews and atheists. Seriously, what world are you fucking living in?

The future British caliphate thanks you!

Yeah, I think I've made my point.

MB, when you've calmed down, I invite you to re-read all your text above. I truly believe everyone is capable of improvement, but in cases like yours Step One has to be some self-awareness.

Why don't you talk more about Christians, Yazidis and Jews being persecuted in Muslim countries and your feelings on that.

Oh wait, you selectively look for people who you can assign as "victims" and you probably don't care about the people who Muslims target. They are the minority in your country and therefore they get a pass. They are victims. You can identify with them. They need your support, understanding, and sympathy.

You are pathetic.

Please tell me more about how no Muslims hate gays and atheists. I could use a good laugh.

MB, you’ve had a breakdown today. The way you can turn that breakdown into a breakthrough is to read your own words and think “Jesus Christ, is this really the person I want to be?”

If you don’t have the courage to do that, then I really hope you find it someday. Cause in the meantime, you really are a piece of shit.

I'm not having a breakdown, you twit. I'm simply counterarguing your ridiculous accusations.

"Why are you reacting just because I call you a white supremacist Nazi, MB? You are so very bad because you say true things about what Muslims believe wahhhh."

You are full of nonsense and that little quote list of yours is ridiculous. I've already responded to it when you posted it in its totality. You want to interpret EVERYTHING as racist because you are intellectually weak and you crave attention.

LOOK AT ME I'M SO GOOD OH MY GOD I'M SO NOT RACIST AND THIS GUY IS OH MY GOD I'M SO VIRTUOUS AND GOOD.

When you're done with jacking off to how good you are and can have an actual conversation, let me know.

“I’m not having a breakdown” is less convincing when you’re still screaming in all-caps.

Did you just misgender me?

How dare you.

You told The Joke.

I did! You called me a girl's name because you equate a girl's name as being something shameful, and that is never okay.

It is, in fact, misgendering me.

Here we see racist troll Marlon Brawndo pretending to be offended as a hiLARious takedown of those sensitive liberal snowflakes.

The alt-right always thinks they're geniuses for this, and it always falls flat.

My pronouns are he, him, and his.

Just so you know.

You are shit and I feel sorry for your mother, who once upon a time looked on her smiling infant and imagined he would grow into someone they could be proud of.

LOL

Simmer down, snowflake, that was just my auto-spellcheck dissing you. Turns out Brawdo isn't a word or a name.

Brawdo is not a word that I know of.

But Brawndo is a word. It makes plants grow. You should know that!

If you read the comments, you’d see it’s not the video, it’s the long hateful rant against British Muslims and immigrants ending “The future British caliphate thanks you!”

But ultimately yeah the messenger matters too. If your sister-in-law offers to babysit your kids, that’s a nice favour. If Jeffrey Epstein offers the same, it’s a different meaning. Same goes for posting the works of white supremacists. It’s not a double standard, it’s context.

I've been accused of being five or six different people who I don't know, which is just as bizarre as any racism accusations.

I honestly did not submit this video as a troll. I submitted this because I'm really into film history and I recently watched this film. I thought it was a technical marvel for its time and I couldn't believe I'd never heard of it before, and I really wanted to share that somewhere. i like this site because people here tend to love obscure and weird things.

But all the weird shit that gets thrown at me here is based on nothing but hysteria.

You keep branding me a white supremacist without any proof whatsoever. Just because you claim something doesn't make it true. You have to back that shit up and the fact is that you can't.

Proof is all over this page.

Yaaawn

I said it was an amazing twist of irony because it was. It was incredibly ironic that DW Griffith saw himself as a victim of intolerance. You are 100% correct in that he was both racist and that he encouraged a resurgence of the KKK. How could it NOT be ironic that he saw HIMSELF as a victim when people pointed out his own overwhelming racism in his portrayal of the KKK as heroic? He was obviously not a victim.

I feel I was pretty clear about this.

I'm trying to understand how what I said could be misinterpreted as "I think it's ironic that DW Griffith made a film called Intolerance because people were intolerant of DW Griffith!" which I never said, never would say, and did not imply...at all.

@JHM that’s entirely reasonable. Thank uou for being a balanced thoughtful dude.

s/uou/you/

>>>I'm trying to understand how what I said could be misinterpreted as "I think it's ironic that DW Griffith made a film called Intolerance because people were intolerant of DW Griffith!" which I never said, never would say, and did not imply...at all.

You didn't. Not really, but it very much seemed like you did. You didn't say you thought it was ironic that he thought he was the victim. You called it an "incredibly ironic twist". Conventionally an "ironic twist" is a deliberate part of a made-up story, so using those terms while discussing INTOLERANCE, a made-up story, was misleading.

>>>You keep branding me a white supremacist without any proof whatsoever.

Okay here you go.

>>>I told you political opinions you disagreed with and support the president of the Unites States of America.

I'm sorry, I know it seems unfair, but supporting Trump makes you a white supremacist. I don't usually want to press this point, but you wanted proof.

Because of the death of a GOP official, there's now documented evidence that Trump's policy of a citizenship question on the Census was originally created to disenfranchise voters of color, and it comes in the context of a whole bunch of similar policies. The Republican party is now in the business of allowing whites to hold onto the political majority, and that's the definition of white supremacy.

I read an article by a black author maybe a year ago, and he said that while white people tend to define racism by some inner moral quality, people of color consider it a matter of justice. In other words, it doesn't matter if you have black friends. Maybe white Republicans don't hate black people, or think white people are superior. Maybe they're actively trying to keep whites in the political majority so they can get tax cuts, roll back regulations, and restrict abortion. It's what they're doing that makes the Republican party textbook white supremacists. Their motives are purely academic.

In the latter years of POE-News the official term for fagdance was changed to "POE-News Waltz".

"I know it seems unfair, but supporting Trump makes you a white supremacist."

The idea that there are 62 million white supremacists in America is ridiculous. I think Blexit is real. I'm a part of it. I don't deserve to be denigrated by being called Uncle Tom, white supremacist, KKK, Nazi or anything else you throw at people who voted for Trump because we truly believed that he was the outsider who could truly defend our country against the dangers that Democrats refuse to.

I believe with all my heart that the Democrats are willing to risk Islamic terrorist activity harming Americans in order to remain in power. Hillary said so in the Podesta emails. They told her bringing in mass Syrian refugees would lead to bombings and she was going to move ahead with her plan anyway.

Hazelnut's hysteria is the same hysteria gripping a lot of the nation right now. It's pure paranoia fueled by a hate that they are being trained to latch onto by the media. Even CNN at this point is backing off, though. It's gotten beyond ridiculous when you have Schiff openly lying all the time about everything and even motherfucking CNN has to call him out on it.

Members of my family, who I never knew, did not make it out of Cuba alive. But if they did they could tell you that socialism is NOT the answer and it will not lead to the paradise a lot of the new left seem to think it will. I stand by Donald Trump to prevent this absolute danger from taking hold in our government.

You'll probably notice that not a lot of debate happens between liberals and conservatives anymore. Liberals want to shut down any and all free speech and that is symptomatic of Stalinism, of Maoism. It's not healthy in any culture and it isn't healthy now. It's truly frightening. Hazelnut is an excellent example of anti-intellectualism taking root and giving way to Maoist tactics. If people like Hazelnut were in charge of the US or UK, we would have a second Cultural Revolution. I am sure his people would take great pride and satisfaction in condemning people publicly, marching them through the streets and may God have mercy on whoever they deem to be enemies of the state...(in the name of ending racism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism)

Ask yourself, what is it that I stand for? Is it white domination of our country of the defense of the Republic in the face of overwhelming social decay, attacks against my fellow Christians (but never any criticism against Islam), the holocaust of black babies through abortion, the absolute crisis of single parent households, and the frightening movement to end free speech in the US?

I can guarantee you it has nothing to do with white domination and I can dismiss such accusations very easily.

Again, you can't have it both ways. You can't scream "it's paranoia, everyone's imagining I'm a racist" on the SAME PAGE as your long ugly racist rant against British Muslims.

You seem to confuse criticism with hatred.

You are confused a lot.

There’s no confusion: when you write “Muslims don't care about your rights and they view you, typically, as being beneath them” above, that ain’t criticism. That is as hateful, spiteful, and wrong as any other alt-right caricatures of an “Other”, from David Duke on Blacks to Trump on Mexicans to Viktor Orban on Jews.