They don't care about either.

They only care about american voters/donors that sympathize with Israel, mostly Zionist mega donors and end-times xtian nutjobs.

Just like all the republican caring about Cuban politics would disappear overnight if the Cubans in florida stopped giving a shit about it.

Glass houses, SolRo

I don’t care about any identity, National, ethnic, religious, sexual or otherwise. People deserve equal rights and treatment but identities are a great way to ‘other’ and dehumanize people.

While oppressed people seek comfort in a shared identity, that is only necessary due to a powerful identity group deciding that they are ‘other’ and oppressing them.

Ah, “I don’t see race”, the fallback excuse of racists everywhere.

How should we square your supposed distaste for othering and dehumanising with your other little proposal for Jews? “Ship them off to some island in the middle of the Pacific, because they cant seem to get along with anyone but themselves.” Your words.

Of course the answer is you don’t explain. Like the subject of this video you’re not man enough to admit that was disgusting and wrong, so you dodge, deny, degrade, anything to get out of facing up to yourself.

Let me try to referee here.

When SolRo says "They don't care about either.", it appears at first that he's talking about Jews, because the title mentions Jews as a group. He's actually talking about Republicans, but it's confusing because no one has mentioned Republicans as a "They". What follows doesn't make much sense according to that interpretation, but you're not looking for things to make sense after "Jews don't care about..."

And "I don't see race" really is what every racist says.

So I think Hazelnut is confused about SolRo's intent here, but SolRo is being especially confusing.

Frankly, I'm skeptical that most American Jews are supportive of Trump's reckless pro-Israel policies, although to be honest, this is not my issue, and my grasp has always been fuzzy, probably like most Americans, including, I'm pretty sure, our President. What I think I do understand is that Trump is mostly trying to pander to crazy apololyptic American evengelicals, and he's taking the support of Jews for granted.

You just need to understand that hazel has his head up his ass in regards to anything involving Israel or Jews, but regardless of that he’ll clutch his pearls just as tightly as any crazy evangelical.

Grr, my reply didn’t attach to the thread; please see below.

Well, it looks like my work is done here.

Some months ago you pointed out that I care about this too much. You were right. But it does bear pointing out.

You think broad-stroking billionaires is anti-Semitic shit.

Your calibration is busted.

Nominal is under the impression that all Jews are billionaires. He’s not as mean-spirited as SolRo but he’s arguably even dimmer.

#NotAllBillionaires

If I say “anti-Semitism is wrong” and you think that’s billionaire propaganda then yeah, congratulations, you’re a piece of shit.

It’s been shown multiple times that you’re just lying and making shit up. You’re exactly like Fox News with your sudden shock and newfound cultural sensitivities when you see an opportunity to smear an opponent.

You’re sick. End of story.

“Ship them off to some island in the middle of the Pacific, because they cant seem to get along with anyone but themselves.”

That is a direct word-for-word quote from you. Care to explain it? Or are direct quotes “fake news” for you and Donald both?

The context is I'm talking about the Israeli apartheid state, which murders protestors, medics, journalists, prisoners and children with complete impunity and is literally founded on land stolen from the people already living there.

And you know this.

And you still lie about it, shrieking like tucker Carlson about me hating all Jews.

Because like fox news, truth and nuance don't matter, just being "right" and smearing your opponent are your main goals.

News flash: “I only hate Israeli Jews” is still fucking anti-Semitic. And you’re lying, you were talking about more than the ‘state’ as your own words make clear.

You’re opposed to the Israeli government, to Israeli apartheid? Great! Me too! There is no difference between us there, as you know well. Trying to pretend I’m some secret Fox News Israeli government spy is a slimy cowardly dodge.

The difference between us is that I say antisemitism is wrong and you keep on defending it. You, Trump, and your StormFront friends are on the same page there.

And the hilarious thing is it would be sooooo easy to put this to bed. You could just acknowledge that it’s vile and unacceptable to hate Jews. Even Corbyn managed that much. But you’ve never had the guts because you want it both ways: to keep spreading hate and acting holier-than-thou at the same time.

So no one is allowed to hate any Jewish person? Like I,m not allowed to hate IDF snipers shooting kids? That’s some amazing free pass to commit atrocities.

And you aren’t a fox news agent. Your an idiot that fell for a very deliberate right wing propaganda push from right wing media, to smear any leftist that dares have a problem with Israel, as an antisemite.

You’re also being a dumbass using their tactic of making baseless inflammatory accusations and then demanding an apology.

So fuck you.

“So no one is allowed to hate any Jewish person?”

For fuck’s sake, LISTEN to yourself. This is the cant of a confirmed racist. You are exactly the same as Brawndo saying “So no one is allowed to hate any Muslim?”

Yes of course you are allowed to hate _individuals_ of any race. No it is not acceptable to hate an entire ethnicity. You are doing the latter. You are a racist bag of shit.

Again, fuck you, you lying piece of shit.

I’m presenting you with nothing but your own words. You’re choosing this hill to die on.

To summarise our disagreement:

Hating individuals, whatever the ethnicity? We agree this is fine. I certainly hate Netanyahu.

Hating abusive governments? Absolutely fine. I hate the actions of the ISF.

Hating a whole ethnicity? SolRo is still insisting it’s fine for him to hate all Israeli Jews. I say that is utterly wrong. He then slimes and dodges and trying to have it both ways.

If this summary is wrong, tell me where it’s wrong, you little coward.

(IDF, not “ISF”. Typo.)

...oh look. The slimeball won’t answer.

Spoiler: it turns out that Hazel was Alan Dershowitz the entire time.

i truly apologize for not adhering to some bullshit notion of 90s cool guy apathy in the middle of a bungled plague response

Some pearls are worth clutching.

let's be honest, you'd be just as hyperbolic plague or not

This site hasn't been better than this for at least 5 years.