lol unprovoked

And are you justifying Israel’s genocide because some of the 2 million prisoners it abuses in a forced ghetto fought back?

What about Palestine's precocious rights as a sovereign nation? I heard so much about the importance of sovereignty after Russia invaded Ukraine.

"oh yeah the CIA pressed the secret button that made the kohols run headfirst into the riot police's batons and shields at the maidan protests"

eat shit and die solro

lol, "county"

"In his remarks at the Foreign Affairs and Security Committee at the Knesset this summer, Netanyahu referred to the future of the PA as a day after the era of 88-year-old Abbas: “We need the Palestinian Authority, we will help it financially—we have no interest in it falling.” Netanyahu also said that “the Palestinian aspiration for a state must be suppressed.”

In fact, this logic was always a significant part of “the conception”—that the PA should exist so that it will be able to govern the Palestinians in the West Bank but also remain weak so that it will be unable to fulfill any state-related ambitions. That’s why Hamas in Gaza was so instrumental in achieving this goal—it was a tactical ally in Netanyahu’s war against the PA."

They're "invading" a population that they've already invaded 70 years ago. They've done everything they can to prevent Palestinian statehood.

Still choking on horse cocks teeth?

I’m not surprised utter fucking retards like you can ignore years of the Nazis murdering civilians in the east just because you can shit an idiotic straw man into your hands and try to present it like you have an argument or that you even belong in the conversation.

You’re fucking worthless and you know it.

Hey Teeth + Bort: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-12-14/trump-leads- swing-state-poll-as-biden-s-core-voters-drifting-away

When same strategy that has failed for 40 year fails once again and Grandpa Genocide gets Trump elected for a second term, will you admit we should try something different, or blame the party base for not falling in line again?

The hostages are only valuable to Hamas and the Israeli public.

Yahoo would rather they all be dead so the IDF can shoot everyone on sight (more so than now)

Israel holds over 5000 hostages, almost 200 of them children per Al Jazeera. By all credible accounts these hostages are regularly abused, starved, sexually assaulted, and kept in inhumane conditions for indefinite periods of time.

Israel also infamously kills their own people if they surrender to Hamas forces. Hamas knows this and actually tries to preserve the lives of their prisoners, because they want to trade them for the hostages held by Israel. Obviously Hamas moved the prisoners out of the tunnels, if they were ever there to begin with. However t's interesting that most Israeli civilians seem convinced that their own government would flood the tunnels with Israeli prisoners inside them.

Quite a number of the hostages have already been killed by Israeli bombardment. You would think this would be a bigger story, given how much sympathetic coverage they've gotten.

For likud this is the grand culmination of the Zionist 70 year genocide campaign.

They see the opportunity to exterminate Palestinians from their lands once and for all.

For that, sacrificing a couple hundred or even 1200 Israelis is insignificant.

If the global community does not intervene then the zeonazis will win

That’s a whole lot of dumb bitch Zionist whining.

Hamas is fighting modern Nazis.

A few years back, you once had occasion to say: "Punch Nazi faces. Punch until they stop being Nazis or they stop being faces." That was a really good line, and I took it to heart. You were in fine form against the Charlottesville white supremacists.

But right now, in this matter ... ? Oh you are on the side of the fucking Nazis. There's nothing more quintessentially Nazi than calling for the extermination of Jews, and that is what Hamas is about. It's right there in their charter. One of their leaders was even ranting recently about taking the intifada global, with suicide bombers going after Jews wherever they are. THAT'S what you're turning a blind eye to, like a good German citizen circa 1940.

If we were talking about Israel even as recently as October 6, we'd probably be in almost full agreement: Bibi and the hardliners are the problem, and if they actually want peace then they'd better do something about all those settlements. That would hold, as of October 6. But then October 7 happened, and your fucking heroes in Hamas have proven over and over that they have no place in human society, much less in peace efforts.

For all my "dumb bitch Zionist whining", I said nothing that was untrue. I said a whole lot of things that you don't like to think about because it casts Hamas as pretty damn evil, but it remains true.

I regret those times I tried to tell Hazelnut that you weren't an antisemite. I mean, he's a stupid worthless sack of shit so I don't care about his feelings, but it turns out you're an antisemite after all.

We already have a bunch of videos here documenting intentional Israeli war crimes

Israel knowingly mass murders Palestinians and idiots like you go “but human shields bro!”

You cannot mass murder civilians just because one enemy fighter might be near them


Israelis are unequivocally the Nazis here, they are committing genocide NOW. Whatever delusional fantasies some Hamas guys might have doesn’t justify FUCKING GENOCIDE YOU IGNORANT TROGLODYTE GUZZLING IDF PROPAGANDA WITHOUT PAUSE.

>“Israel has the same right to defend itself as any other country would have”

Israel is illegally occupying the Palestinian territories. They do not have a right to “defend” themselves from a population they have kept under illegal occupation for 70 years. This is like saying that “Russia has the right to defend itself against Ukrainian partisans in the occupied areas of Ukraine”.

>“Hamas weren't intentionally deploying a thick meaty layer of Gazans for protection”

There has never been a single documented instance of Hamas using civilians as “human shields,” though it used to be a common enough IDF practice that the Israeli supreme court had to explicitly ban it.

The civilians make up 61% of the deaths in Gaza. In the battle of Mosul which ended the last stronghold of ISIS, who did actually use human shields, civilians made up less than 50% of the casualties. This includes civilians killed by ISIS, who just executed large numbers of them.

What Israel is doing is using AI to scrape cellphone data and drone footage, identifying who they think might be a junior level Hamas operative, and then blowing up his whole house with his family inside.

Blaming civilian casualties on the Palestinians is absurd and disgusting.

>”There's nothing more quintessentially Nazi than calling for the extermination of Jews, and that is what Hamas is about. It's right there in their charter.”

Hamas’ charter: “17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.”

>”THAT'S what you're turning a blind eye to, like a good German citizen circa 1940.”

I don’t know how to explain to you that each of the ~20,000 lives lost in Gaza are of equal value to the ~1200 lost in Israel. Like, how many dead children are acceptable to you? What’s the ratio, how many dead brown people are worth the life of someone who looks and acts acceptably western?

Here are the people we’re sending weapons to and singlehandedly shielding from international pressure:

“You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible - we do remember.” -Benjamin Netanyahu. … “Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” -1 Samuel 15:3

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved. It's absolutely not true. They could have risen up.” - Israeli president Issac Herzog

"Gaza won't return to what it was before. We will eliminate everything.” Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant

“I do not equate them [Palestinians] with animals, that would be an insult to animals” - Mordechai Kedar, Israeli professor of Arab culture and former IDF intelligence officer

“the only thing that deters them [suicide bombers] is if they know that their sister or their mother will be raped in the event that they are caught." - Mordechai Kedar

“We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly. … We will eliminate everything - they will regret it.” Israeli Defence Minister, Yoav Gallant

“I am very puzzled by the constant concern which the world is showing for the Palestinian people and is actually showing for these horrible, inhuman animals who have done the worst atrocities that this century has seen.” - Former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman

“Gaza Nakba 2023. That’s how it’ll end.” - Agriculture Minister Avi Dichter

“Your expectation is that tomorrow morning we’d drop what amounts to some kind a nuclear bomb on all of Gaza, flattening them, eliminating everybody there…,” the Radio Kol Berama interviewer said.
“That’s one way,” Eliyahu responded.” -Israeli Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu

“The north of the Gaza Strip, more beautiful than ever. Blow up and flatten everything, delightful. After we are done, we allocate the lands of Gaza to the soldiers fighting and the settlers who lived in Gush Katif.” - -Israeli Heritage Minister Amihai Eliyahu

“The emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.” Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, IDF

“Human beasts are dealt with accordingly. Israel has imposed a total blockade on Gaza – no electricity, no water, just damage. You wanted hell – you will get hell.”- Maj. Gen. Ghassan Alian, IDF

“There is one and only (one) solution, which is to completely destroy Gaza before invading it. I mean destruction like what happened in Dresden and Hiroshima, without nuclear weapons,” - Moshe Feiglin, Israeli MP

“There should be two goals for this victory: One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel … After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom”. -Amit Halevi, Likud MP

“Only an explosion that shakes the Middle East will restore this country’s dignity, strength and security! It’s time to kiss doomsday. Shooting powerful missiles without limit. Not flattening a neighbourhood. Crushing and flattening Gaza. … without mercy! without mercy!” -Revital Gotliv, Likud MP

“Nakba? Expel them all. If the Egyptians care so much for them - they are welcome to have them wrapped in cellophane tied with a green ribbon.”
“We are too humane. Burn Gaza now, no less!"
- Nissim Vaturi, deputy speaker for Israel’s parliament

“Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!” - Ariel Kallner, Israeli MP

"Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave anyone behind. Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live. … Every Jew with a weapon should go out and kill them. If you have an Arab neighbour, don’t wait, go to his home and shoot him.” - Ezra Yachin, 95 year old veteran who participated in the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre of 107 Palestinian civilians, speaking to IDF troops in 2023. No one involved in the massacre was held accountable.

“The State of Israel has no choice but to turn Gaza into a place that is temporarily or permanently impossible to live in,” a reservist major general, Giora Eiland, wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth, an Israeli newspaper. “Creating a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza is a necessary means to achieve the goal.” He added, “Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist.”

“After screening a 45-minute montage of footage taken by Hamas fighters' body cameras during the October 7 attack, Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook that Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth. "That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

"You have to enter Gaza at the height of brutality, with the aim of revenge, zero morality, maximum corpses.” - Prominent political commentator Eliyahu Yossian

“Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” -1 Samuel 15:3

“Human beasts are dealt with accordingly. Israel has imposed a total blockade on Gaza – no electricity, no water, just damage. You wanted hell – you will get hell.”- Maj. Gen. Ghassan Alian, IDF

“There is one and only (one) solution, which is to completely destroy Gaza before invading it. I mean destruction like what happened in Dresden and Hiroshima, without nuclear weapons,” - Moshe Feiglin, Israeli MP

“There should be two goals for this victory: One, there is no more Muslim land in the land of Israel … After we make it the land of Israel, Gaza should be left as a monument, like Sodom”. -Amit Halevi, Likud MP

“Only an explosion that shakes the Middle East will restore this country’s dignity, strength and security! It’s time to kiss doomsday. Shooting powerful missiles without limit. Not flattening a neighbourhood. Crushing and flattening Gaza. … without mercy! without mercy!” -Revital Gotliv, Likud MP

“Nakba? Expel them all. If the Egyptians care so much for them - they are welcome to have them wrapped in cellophane tied with a green ribbon.”
“We are too humane. Burn Gaza now, no less!"
- Nissim Vaturi, deputy speaker for Israel’s parliament

“Nakba to the enemy now! This day is our Pearl Harbour. We will still learn the lessons. Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 48. A Nakba in Gaza and a Nakba for anyone who dares to join!” - Ariel Kallner, Israeli MP

"Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave anyone behind. Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live. … Every Jew with a weapon should go out and kill them. If you have an Arab neighbour, don’t wait, go to his home and shoot him.” - Ezra Yachin, 95 year old veteran who participated in the 1948 Deir Yassin massacre of 107 Palestinian civilians, speaking to IDF troops in 2023. No one involved in the massacre was held accountable.

“The State of Israel has no choice but to turn Gaza into a place that is temporarily or permanently impossible to live in,” a reservist major general, Giora Eiland, wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth, an Israeli newspaper. “Creating a severe humanitarian crisis in Gaza is a necessary means to achieve the goal.” He added, “Gaza will become a place where no human being can exist.” - NYT

“After screening a 45-minute montage of footage taken by Hamas fighters' body cameras during the October 7 attack, Knesset member and former Public Diplomacy Minister Galit Distal Atbaryan posted on Facebook that Israeli officials must invest all their energy "in one thing: erasing all of Gaza from the face of the Earth. "That the brave monsters will fly to the southern fence and enter Egyptian territory," Atbaryan continued, an apparent reference to Israel's reported plan to permanently expel Palestinians who survive the assault to Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, imposing a "second Nakba" on the population. "Or let them die... Gaza needs to be wiped out."Revengeful and vicious IDF is required here," she continued. "Anything less than that is immoral."

"You have to enter Gaza at the height of brutality, with the aim of revenge, zero morality, maximum corpses.” - Prominent political commentator Eliyahu Yossian

Sorry for the duplication.

I don't doubt SolRo doesn't care about any victims and is only in this to support anything that makes "the West" look bad.

But dang it's crazy how this is being pushed as everyone getting lockstep in line to support unrestricted Greater Israel visions. Especially from people who normally should know better. Jesus, Bort. "But then October 7 happened" is a carbon copy of the "Everything changed after 9/11" mantra that neocons used to march everyone to so much shitiness.

And fuck's sake you're using it to now call for full steam ahead on settlements.

"But one of their leaders said!..."

You support every single U.S. military foray into nations where they found someone chanting death to America? The Iraq war was justified? You've turned into a FOX News viewer calling for war whenever they show footage of any brown people cheering to terrorist acts.

"They've stated their goal is extermination!"

Using that whataboutism is either being ignorant or dishonest. How much digging does it take to find horrific quotes from Likund leaders and their influencers? From Benzion Netanyahu to the latest Israeli ambassador interview, they clearly hold a stance of exterminate or be exterminated. Do you honestly believe the power to enact that plan is equal to both sides?

Imagine supporting American manifest destiny by pointing to select quotes of Native American warchiefs.

Many of the bodies pulled from the rubble in Gaza have blue lips and fingers, indicating that they died of suffocation after being buried alive. 40% of those killed are children. There are no large machines to pull people out due to fuel shortages. There are few hospitals left operational to treat people if they are pulled out. Israel has made a concerted practice of striking private residences. Often there has been no discernible military purpose to these strikes on homes.

Despite his hyperbole and invective, SolRo is against burying children alive until they suffocate. You are, apparently, in favor of it.

But Hamas killed 30 Israeli children so it’s okay bro

Solro has zero problem with it as long as they're ukrainian

Russia literally blew up a dam, ruined a fuckton of farmland with brackish water, and ruined a source of grain for most of the arab world, but lets get all uppity about the tunnels a couple weeks ago y'all were claiming were a fake israeli psyop

Your head is so far up your ass with delusional and unverified propaganda that it’s not even worth trying to engage you point by point

But here’s some homework for your stupid ass anyhow; find some evidence of this giant hamas “terror command bunker” that was definitely under Al Shifa and justified killing all those civilians to capture it.