I have no idea why they call it a subculture when no one self identifies as a "hipster" non-facetiously.

This piece of shit knows nothing about the history of anything. I want to shit in his mom.

Punks might identify high status by the number of studs on their leather jacket...

Hmmm, yeah...

I was raised by Special Forces Dad so was told my whole life my mustache was awful, I kept it out of defiance and shaved it when he died.

My god, maybe I am a fucking hipster.

Did you keep it within regs?

I had to have a safety bar installed for rides, yes.

Growing a mustache is something that genetically speaking requires LITERALLY NOTHING ON YOUR BEHALF TO DO. It happens whether or not you like it. The mustache is the natural state of affairs. If anything, shaving it off is a weird and effete indulgence, due to the continual upkeep.

Cena's next idea is to state that having children is somehow hard work, despite it being the one single task that miraculously gets easier to do the less intelligent you are.

Which kind of stache do you grow, Cena? Please tell me you grow the Hitler. I always loved how the Hitler was totally in reg, but the Gay Biker wasn't.

Just ending slightly passed my lips. Technically that's out of regs, but it looks much cooler that way and nobody gave me shit for it.

Why would I get a Chaplain?

Why *wouldn't* you get a Hitler? It's the only time you can grow one and get away with it, outside of Tea Party rallies.

My unit's quartermaster had one, and he was talk of the town!

At this point in time, anybody who calls somebody a "hipster," a term originally used as a passive aggressive insult among the very people who were originally identified as such (by themselves), is really just betraying their own insecurities. The term originated in the 50's to refer to the crowd that followed the jazz scene, it was a inside joke then, and it was an inside joke when it resurfaced in the 90's. I don't know how it make a commodity, but that's America for you. Nobody is allowed to do anything without it being processed into consumer sludge.

That guy with a used shirt is a hipster. He's making his own beer! I've never done anything myself, so that guy is a hipster. He's playing D&D! Hipsters play D&D, but he's also a nerd, which according to this fucking jackass is somehow acceptable now (read Patton Oswalt's brilliant essay on the "tragic" mainstreaming and commodification of nerdiness).

Actually, maybe those young people trying to be unique aren't actually hipsters, maybe you're just boring.

I can't grow a moustache. It just doesn't go well my my Frida Kahlo Unibrow. I do a good beard, however.

Hey at least they're trying to be unique. Most people are boring and don't even try not to be.

He throws around phrases like "cultural capital" as if they don't apply to him. It's so cold in the D.

I pretty much agree with this guy. The people dressed like beatnicks on the street playing awful, unpracticed music annoy me because they haven't put any effort in and their appearance seems to demand that I take them twice as serious as the performer down the street playing beautiful music on his or her guitar. It's the total disconnect between how serious they expect to be taken and how serious they ought to be taken.

In a way, I guess it's sort of a breaking experiment. I have never practiced any music instrument, and as a result, I would never attempt to play in public and feel a serious degree of anxiety if I were forced to. Those idiot fucks should feel my anxiety as well.

Be fair though. Hipsters, for all their class privilege, are reacting to the same spectacle of capitalist pop culture that other subcultures rebelled against. The difference is, they grew up in a culture much more entrenched in consumerism and post-modernism, and much more enabled by technology and globalization, than any other subculture before them.

I'm an ex-gutterpunk, and I thought for sure my scene had it figured out as far as how to rebel against all that. And yet you can see the same styles I grew up wearing in Lady Gaga videos, in the pages of Interview magazine and on IFC nowadays. Something that only ever existed as a primal scream of negation and resistance to capitalism has been recuperated into its machinations as another trendy product. So I can't really judge kids who came after me for being able to appropriate all that and more -- they only inherited these conditions, they didn't create them.

Besides which, generationally, hipsters are the same kids who've given us Occupy Wall Street and Anonymous. So, sure, they've got class privilege, but they've also reinvigorated anti-capitalist/anti-authoritarian activism in a country where the left doesn't exist and most liberals are right-wing dittoheads and don't even know it.

A lot of the stuff Anonymous does takes actual effort.

There is no way hipsters are responsible for that.

Arcade Fire won a grammy.

Okay, Paranex, I can sort of see where you're coming from. I mean, I think technology does also play a part in what you're referring to. Thanks to the interweb and social media, it's a lot easier to get into anything than it used to be. If you live in Brooklyn, you can have, like, five hobbies and three careers going at once. All you need is an internet connection to download an absolutely stellar record collection, which used to take you years and years and a few thousand bucks to acquire. Why not do it? A lot of pop culture is still exactly as awful as it used to be, and hipsters aren't, I guess, the first people to try to relieve boredom through art, and I guess they can take their shot. Of course, it's this very facility with culture and subcultures that pisses old-timers and more niche cultural enthusiasts off, but that's uh, the point of the video, right?

meh.

Fart.

I always defined it like Nerd meant an affinity for practical knowledge like math and science, whereas geeks were just obsessed with comics, star trek, and anime.

A nerd is someone with a wonky enthusiasm for some arcane art or science.

A geek is someone who bites the heads off chickens in carnival sideshows.

Nerds are social and form nerd communities around nerdy interests. Geeks are out-and-out freaks who are usually not social with anyone. Nerddom implies specialized knowledge, but geekdom does not necessarily imply the same.

They both sound like a bunch of dorks

HAY

"Hipster" has meant "poseur" since at least as far back as the 1950s, when it was a term for the kind of person who read an article about "the beats" and started walking around with a copy of Howl under his arm all the time to make sure everyone knew he was hip (even though he probably hadn't read it yet). They're basically the same as fashion punks except they aren't specific to any one subculture. In fact, a lot of them ARE fashion punks in some towns.

You've never spent 2 minutes walking down Bedford Ave have you?

They're basically punks with arrested development in place of anger brought about by not having to work for a living thanks to the presently unlimited cash flow from their parents. They claim to hate consumerism and corporate practice but have no qualms about living off the fruits of it via daddy's atm card. It's the hypocrisy of that that makes them universally contemptible.


Bushwick hipster apartment ancedotes:

Roster: chick who worked 15 hours a week at a thrift store but took off every other month to her family's Caribbean beach house, boyfriend who mooched off her and almost never worked because it interfered with his "art" (a dollar bill with the American flag painted in blood), crazy unstable chick who worked at the same thrift store before getting fired and mooching off the other chick, chick attending art school.

- Boyfriend too lazy and busy with art to make appointment with cable company while staying home two weeks.

- Art school chick obsessed with shocking everyone by leaving around half a dozen dildo art pieces, culminating in a portrait of Jesus sucking a dead dog's dick.

- Unstable chick having friends over and shaking the walls with music at 4am on a Tuesday. When asked by two people to turn it down, started screaming how dare everyone oppress her.

- Hookah ash and American Spirit debris. Everywhere. Constantly.

- Rich girl smoking up and going into a paranoid phase where she started running around throwing everything into a trash bag saying they had to get rid of everything corporate.

- Unstable chick shredding half the common room decorations belonging to various people. Claims she thought it was all the rich girl's and since they're friends she would have thought it was HILARIOUS. Said it was our fault we didn't have a sense of humor and ran out slamming the door.

- Utility bills never paid on time, if at all. But check out this sweet 0 guitar!

- Made the total bonehead mistake of not immediately switching cable bill to their name when moving out. Got a call months later from Time Warner informing me of a 0 balance. Told them to shut it off but for some insane (and untrue (and illegal)) reason they said they can't discontinue service until the balance was paid off. Said I couldn't help them then. Got to ignore their calls for another year. Calls to hipster house members never returned.

So were you a hipster too Fabio, or were you like a Jane Goodall studying their behavior?

I friend of mine lived in Green Point about ten years ago, before it was completely overrun, and he had to walk through the center of Williamsburg on his way to work. He would literally run to the subway so he wouldn't have to look at or interact with the hipsters any more than absolutely necessary.

out of every one of those anecdotes, the only thing I see unique to the stereotype of hipsters might be the American Spirits and hookah ash.... and I'm assuming if it was Marlboro Reds "debris," it would've been cool?

of course it would've, HIPSTER

CORRECTION: I've done some research, and it turns out that Sunday comes after Saturday

I thought Katy Perry looked goddamn amazing in that elmo video.

dude she didn't write friday... she had no influence on that song... all you're saying is that you are horny for rebecca black

If there's anything worse than a hipster, it's a stickler.

No, and when I say "fuck you", it doesn't mean that I want to literally have sex with you.

I've always defined hipster as "anyone who has a definition for hipster".

stars for EvilHomer.

but really, i can't take the word as anything more than just a random, all-purpose slur like "dummy" or "meathead" for when you just really want to hate something but don't want to think too hard about why.

They do exist. Saying the enemy isn't real won't make them go away.