Yeah I said some months ago that he was probably a troll, but then came the Brown People bashing and the Trump we know today. As far as that goes, I think it's just a generational thing, and I have no doubt that Clinton and Sanders harbor similar prejudices, they just have advisors who they listen to and don't go off the rails like Trump does.

Anyway to them, it's easy to find blame when an illegal immigrant rapes or murders someone, or a couple of Muslims shoot up an office building. Easy! Look at what they look like! But our generation grew up where it was the white middle class kid next door; since we couldn't blame a pefectly nice white upbringing, let's.. I dunno, try to blame The Matrix!

It absloutely would be, and it give pause for thought, BUT

OR he's a megalomaniac (see: his life) and he barely cares which political uniform he wears to do his megalomaniac-ing.

This is just me going from memory, but he always struck me as more of a poor man's Conrad Hilton than a JD Rockefeller, showing up in the tabloids because he's broke once again, jokes on SNL, things like that, occasionally sharing his opinion and slowly rebuilding his empire. By definition he IS a megalomaniac but I think that word applies to anybody who decides "I'm going to run for President some day."

Not trying to defend him though; he's a racist asshole but I'm just coping with the fact that he'll be the next US Prez and there's nothing you or I can do about it.. :(

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/28/trump.democrats/index.html< br />
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/16/24405/-



This isn't even a secret. I've been telling you guys this for months. The mainstream media likes to play dumb, because that's what they do, but everyone in a position of real authority - i.e. the cynical bastards who look down on proles like us - knows this entire Hillary vs Trump thing is a farce. Like all American politics, it's theater: a billionaire welfare cheat known primarily for the character he plays on reality TV, and his best buddy, the Wal*Mart rape-shamer who was recently considered for that most egalitarian of offices, the President of the World Bank.

He's trolling, oh yes he is, but only in the sense that everyone in Washington is trolling us.

IZ is right; by its very nature, everyone who applies for the job of PotUS has to be a megalomaniac. And yeah, he's totally the poor man's Conrad Hilton - I've said this a bunch of times too, but he's not so much a billionaire, as a guy who plays one on TV.

I mean, like, the other day right? I spotted some gossip article about Ivanaka "and her *unlikely* friendship with Chelsea Clinton". Yeah, "unlikely". This thing which has been a matter of public record for, what, almost two decades now, don't you find it hard to believe gosh who knows how that happened, HEY HERE'S A PHOTO OF ARIANA GRANDE'S BUTT.

When Trump wins, I shall strip off my business suit and sacrifice three goats to His Glory. Hail Trump, Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Donal'du R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

The only thing which surprises me here is that a few Republicans are evidently breaking kayfabe to go after Trump. Someone's kid is going to lose his spot in the Skull and Bones over this...!

EH, I didn't pay enough attention to realize how deep this ran. I always took him for more of a center right sort who had drifted a bit farther right. Like, obviously all of his insane rhetoric in the campaign has been for show to get the media's attention but I didn't really appreciate how left of center some of his opinions were and how recently he had espoused them. I also wasn't aware of his closeness with the Clintons, and that's a big one. Before I thought he was a centrist Democrat who had become a moderate republican and was playing to the trolls and MRAs and such because he understands how to work the contemporary media.I figured in office he'd probably be like McKAin would have most likely been - I wouldn't agree with him on a lot of stuff, but he probably wouldn't do anything particularly radical.


The thing I've been fascinated by throughout this campaign is the possibility that he has been planning this for years and the entire reality TV stint was something he orchestrated to build the character and experiment with it before the main event.

But now what I'm most interested in is whether, if we get a Trump vs. Clinton race (I don't think Trump would be as supportive of Bernie although you never know) would Trump deliberately play to lose? The idea that he's playing the heel to deliberately put her in the white house seems like less of a joke and more of a real possibility now. The race baiting makes it seem even more likely, it no longer even feels like he's playing to win, it feels like he's playing to make the other GOP candidates lose, and with the added bonus of exposing the worst tendencies of the Millennial right to a mainstream audience that doesn't know the first thing about Stormfront or MGTOW or the people who take /pol/ seriously, or 2/3 of Reddit.



Probably wishful thinking but I really hope we're right here, the reveal would be legendary and the alternative is just utterly demoralizing.







Actually, the most amazing but completely implausible scenario would be if Bernie won the primary and Trump ran with Hillary as is VP. Obviously complete fantasy but just think about what that would do.

Take your pick. You can go full-paranoia that this is all about pushing Hilary past Bernie and the GOP, where Trump will be handsomely rewarded for the role of a lifetime. Or, you can assume that he's insane and has no politics, only political positions because he's a megalomaniac.

I would say our country's fighting for its soul, but Obama's downsides have soured me on even being that hopeful. Not that Obama is Sanders. I don't know a ton about Sanders, I just know that he's up against Hilary and the GOP and that he's supposed to be a S*cialist. (oooooooohh)

Trump = The Million Dollar Dream
Bernie = The People's Eyebrow

It just occurred to me, maybe the reason he's doing so well with the youth vote is because they actually understand the principles of Socialism. I didn't really get around to reading Communist Manifesto until sometime in late high school, but I'll bet if I asked my teacher what a Socialist was when I was a kid because I heard it on TV he'd just say it was an early form of Communism, and we don't like the Communists. End of discussion.

Now kids these days can just wikipedia it and get a pretty good grasp on the subject, and why someone would want to identify as a democratic socialist in the first place, vs. my 30+ demographic who still hears the word and kind of backs down from it.

Perhaps old moderate Trump will run for the democratic nomination, and this whole thing has been an elaborate scheme to make himself look good in comparison to himself. I'd vote for Trump, he's the only one that can defeat Trump!

It's going to be interesting to see what happens if/when Bloomberg jumps in.

Their ship isn't sinking. Their house isn't burning. It might be turning into something they don't like, but they're ideologically adaptable. They always have been. If Trump wins the presidency, they'll simply stretch & contort their labels so that he's becomes the new face of Conservatism, whereas if he fails they'll disown him & all his works like they did Bush. (Unless Bush's reputation enjoys a resurgence, at which point they'll reclaim Bush as their own, saying that they always supported him.)

Consistency doesn't matter to these assholes. What matters is saying words so that their idiot supporters have something to parrot when faced with a criticism.

Don't get me wrong... I kinda like the Trump candidacy. Trump has done a great job of exposing the hypocrisy and lies of his fellow Republicans. But he is an asshole, and I'm not exactly rejoicing that he's probably going to be the candidate. As we saw with Dubya, presenting the American people with a proven terrible person as the Republican candidate, that doesn't mean they'll vote against him. We may end up with President Trump. Then again, it's no more than what this country deserves.

People have this crazy fantasy that Hillary is wildly hated by most voters, or is going to get indicted, which is all overblown to absurd levels and flat wrong.

She is entrenched. She is a lifetime politician. She has money and an army of the most experienced political operatives in DC. The establishment will support her, and the establishment more important than any of us think. Sanders is making some noise but won't beat her. Trump is a rube and a naif. If Trump wins the nomination, the Clinton army will utterly decimate every chance he has of even competing.

Jang you're right; in 08 I voted for Hillary but then obviously voted for Obama, which was a close one, but that's because of the youth vote: I'm not sure if it's still the same but last time I looked Bernie has 75% of the 18-29 year-old demographic, which is the only reason Obama won in '08. If it comes down to Trump and Clinton it wouldn't surprise me if that huge demographic either decides not to vote, or just jumps ship because Trump's more interesting.

Plus he hates Fox News, so much that he's not participating in Thursday's debate. You know who also hates Fox News? Pretty much everybody who's pro-Sanders. Like Homie said above, the kayfabe has been broken and all we really want is entertainment.

Oh, jang. How silly does that comment look right now.

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We need to get post-modernism out of politics.