Menudo con queso - 2008-08-14
And keep off my lawn!
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Smellvin - 2008-08-14
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that involves promising or paying profits to investors out of the money paid in by subsequent investors, rather than from net revenues generated by any real business. It is named after Charles Ponzi.
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Xenocide - 2008-08-14 For it to count as a Ponzi scheme, the investors must be led to believe that they ARE being paid from revenues generated by the investment, rather than later investors' contributions. There has to be no other income coming in aside from the investment itself.
The government has plenty of other sources of income beside the SS tax, and more importantly has never led anyone to believe that today's SS checks aren't funded by younger workers. Therefore it is not a Ponzi scheme. "Scheme" implies a fundemental deception about where your check comes from.
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IrishWhiskey - 2008-08-14
Social Security is redistribution of wealth. Which is the same as socialism. And if they were dying in poverty, then it just means they were lazy and didn't want to work. If we privatize it, the hand of the market will take care of people.
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baleen - 2008-08-14
aww crap I submitted this. damn you dead cookies.
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Dicknuts - 2008-08-14
Greatest president my ASS.
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baleen - 2008-08-14
Uh oh greatest president war!
Let's hear the small bus verdict... Go dicknuts, go!
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Dicknuts - 2008-08-14 That polio stricken buffoon was a villain! A villain!
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baleen - 2008-08-14 and I am completely capable of flexing on this, I'm just baiting. I'd like you to say Reagan or something, but I'll probably get some pre-history prez like Lincoln. Whenever I'm hanging out with my Republican friends, we get drunk and it all boils down to Lincoln (I'm tactful about it). Or some signer of the Declaration of Independence. Then we say God Bless America and say no hard feelings and buy each other shots.
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baleen - 2008-08-14 how was he a villain, please.
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Billy Buttsex - 2008-08-14 I am one of Baleen's republican friends.
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Dicknuts - 2008-08-14 Naw I got beef with Lincoln too. Truman is pretty cool I guess. In all honesty I have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll shut up now.
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Xenocide - 2008-08-14 It's true guys, FDR was a villain. Specifically, he was The Penguin. Note the cigarette holder. "I'll get you Hitler, WAUGH WAUGH WAUGH WAUGH WAUGH!"
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heyitslozeau - 2008-08-15 well, if were gonna do this, whats the criteria for "greatest president" ?
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Camonk - 2008-08-15 Just a shot in the dark, but baleen, are your Republican friends also the people you know who are horrible felons?
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TeenerTot - 2008-08-15 Andrew Jackson? Yeah, the Trail of Tears WAS a party.
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baleen - 2008-08-15
heyitslozeau
well, if were gonna do this, whats the criteria for "greatest president" ?
The criteria are unimportant. The greatest president conversation is a wank fest and has no bearing on reality. That's why it's fun. It usually boils down to this: "Do you love America? N/Y" and "All presidents are seriously flawed."
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baleen - 2008-08-15
Camonk
Just a shot in the dark, but baleen, are your Republican friends also the people you know who are horrible felons?
Yes, actually! Sadly, one of them just died of a heart attack last week. It was really really sad. I went to his wake and it was a who's who of Brooklyn mafia circa 1985. It was awkward. Most of them were laughing. I don't think they liked the guy very much.
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Camonk - 2008-08-15 It is sad that your friend died. It is also sad that many Republicans are heartless felons.
Also every one knows that George Washington wasn't flawed at all. He was perfect. I circled the Y on my monitor.
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Billy Buttsex - 2008-08-14
He forgot to mention how the government uses it like another tax, having spent all the funds. He also forgot to mention how we're going to have to either significantly increase funding for the program, or import massive amounts of foreigners. He also forgot to mention that old people whose kids don't love them and take care of them probably did a shitty job raising their kids.
Actually, now that I think about it, he forgot a lot of things.
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baleen - 2008-08-14
Actually Billy, we aren't supposed to use Social Security as an emergency fund as we've been doing. The Republican Congressional takeover of the 90's basically used Social Sec as a rape toy and borrowed heavily from it, their intend of course was to bankrupt it, as it has always been.
And you bring up a very interesting point. We do not have enough young taxpayers to pay for our aging population, as you have turned yourself into a white person, this should concern you. It's not just social security, it's pensions, it's the entire social compact that ends up being several trillion dollars of consumer dollars. We need those immigrants. This goes against what many of my Union friends would say, but it actually embraces conservative libertarian ethics in a lot of ways. The GOP has no clear idea of what they're saying. They are terrified of all th new people coming in and ruffling their colors, at the same time this economy and the future of our senior citizens would look pretty dim without a constant influx of hard working, YOUNG cheap laborers.
If you'd like to change this course, try to encourage every white family to have ten babies, workforce babies, because that's what it's going to take to thwart this onslaught of people taking our fruit picking jobs.
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IrishWhiskey - 2008-08-14 You forgot to mention raising the retirement age only a few years as a solution. It would make it solvent, even though its understandably not a popular suggestion.
Also you forgot to troll more with the "you die poor, you were a shitty parent" comment.
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Billy Buttsex - 2008-08-14 Baleen, I agree with what you've said, except for the "fix social security by committing ethno-suicide" thing. Completely upsetting the demographics of an entire nation to pay for old people is a bit radical, don't you think?
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coprolalia - 2008-08-15 Dear Billy Buttsex,
If it weren't for Social Security, my crazy ass would still be stranded in the desert instead of right here to discover you and plot your humiliation and destruction.
Love,
Jesus von Goddevil, Second-Point-Seventh-Degree Illuminatus
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baleen - 2008-08-15
Billy Buttsex
Baleen, I agree with what you've said, except for the "fix social security by committing ethno-suicide" thing. Completely upsetting the demographics of an entire nation to pay for old people is a bit radical, don't you think?
No, I don't. Once again Billy, you are a walking ethnic upset, so I have no idea why you are choosing to represent pickup truck yokels\hypocrites.
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sheikurbouti - 2008-08-14
It's not designed to generate revenue and it doesn't redistribute wealth. It's very simply designed to give senior citizens a minimal monthly income, should all else fail. It works. Conservatives lay awake at night hating it.
The best president is George Zimmer. I guarantee it.
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Xenocide - 2008-08-14
Keep your hands off my supple body, McCain.
Also my social whatever.
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afp3683 - 2008-08-14
will old farts be willing to vote for a nigger en masse if the Dems hammer this issue on televised ads during matlock reruns?
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StanleyPain - 2008-08-15
I think it's great how most Republican/neo-con talking points about everything wrong with SS can be traced back to poor decisions made by Republicans and Neocons to try and "fix" the system.
Which I'm sure somehow is Clinton's fault. Isn't everything?
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Merkwuerdigeliebe - 2008-08-15
The only good thing about SS is its acronym.
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coprolalia - 2008-08-15 ABBREVIATION
Or are you pronouncing it "Sass"?
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Cena_mark - 2008-08-27
Social Security is failing, and FDR was a fucking cripple.
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IrishWhiskey - 2008-09-15 Good for him. Most cripples with a lesbian wife would have trouble keeping their mojo working.
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