That is one hell of a creepy channel.

I wonder if she's single...?

Oh, Homer.

You can do better. Much, much better.

Didn't watch, but assuming those would be photoshopped?

because all that sparkly shit in the preload cant hide the fatness.

You've gotta be trolling me! Evanescence wasn't that bad, and they weren't metal. They were an alt rock band with a few stylistic nods to chick-fronted goth-metal.

Evanescence is shit and you know it.

Homer, is there anything that you aren't on the wrong side of?

One way or another, almost everyone ends up worshipping Death. At least this fatty's found a way to do it that involves sparkles and photoshop.

Also, Evanescence may be utter garbage, but this song brings back glorious memories of drinking myself half to death in the shitty old barracks at Fort Benning, so 5 stars.

I love Nightwish but haven't really formulated an opinion on Evanescence.. strong female vocalists are my thing though (Mia Zapata, Kathleen Hanna, Natasha Khan, I could go on..) her voice is amazing but that's all I know.

Within the context of strong female vocalist bands, they were nothing special - Evanescence was but a pale shadow compared to Nightwish, Theatre of Tragedy, Lacuna Coil, After Forever, Within Temptation, The Gathering, Ambeon, Autumn Tears, BABYMETAL... I could go on! Evanescence was extremely well-known, however, and their commercial success did help to spread awareness about a genre that was largely being ignored by the radio-listening masses, even if Evanescence themselves were not directly associated with said genre (I still remember the first time I heard Evanescence: my friend's sister played them for me, saying, "Hey, this is sort of like all that weird shit you listen to, right?" At the time, I resented her insinuation, because hipster, but in retrospect I could easily see why she thought that). Evanescence helped introduce a generation of goth fencesitters to the joys of vampires and eyeliner and rock bands with pianos, girls who were too young to remember Siouxsie and too well-adjusted to spend their weekends hanging out at local metal shows, living in that barren cultural wasteland between the rise of Limp Bizkit and the eventual coming of Fall Out Boy. And that is a noble legacy, surely?

Case in point: this video. Evanescence clearly played some role in making this young lady as interesting as she is now.

You, uh, take this stuff real seriously, Homer.

I take all stuff very seriously. Like my dad used to say, if you're going to do something, give it your all. Of course, he was thinking I'd be a astrophysicist or a violin prodigy or a millionaire investment banker like the uncle my grandparents always used to compare my dad unfavorably to, but whatever. If you must do a thing, do it boldly!

I was really, really into chick-metal, though. Moreso than any other genre, save for *maybe* neoclassical and Swedish melodic death metal.

GVCCI HVCCI > all of EvilHomer's faves.

The dude you can hear being shit in the shitmetal song kicked the chick out of the band because she was holding him back (this is what I heard at the time). Without her, this is indistinguishable from that entire KoRn spawned nightmare that is shitmetal. Shitmetal reigned twice as long as other genres, which is a crime against humanity worse than the Spanish Inquisition. We lost more as a species because of shitmetal than with all wars combines. Shitmetal is why kids cannot write an original song, and now all songs remind you better songs written before shitmetal. Shitmetal is the dark ages from which music has yet to re-emerge.

OldPeople, did you see the Hitch documentary about Princess Di worship? It's downright Egyptian.

OK, meme, first off, the commonly accepted term is "numetal", which again, is not metal. And while I will be the first to agree that numetal was a dark, dark time for music (almost as bad as the years 1968-1980), Evanescence was not "indistinguishable" from KoRn, even without Amy Lee. Otep? Kittie? That band with the crazy Catholic chick whose name I can't recall? Sure, those could easily be mistaken for KoRn had you mixed out the vocals and, in the case of Kittie,m sped up the tempo a bit. But Evanescence was structurally and instrumentally at a midpoint between early noughties alt rock and early 90s goth. At worst, you'd mistake them for Linkin Park. Who, yes, can technically be considered numetal, but are a very different *kind* of numetal from KoRn or Slipknot or ICP.

One other thing I'd like to point out is that kids have *never* been able to write a good song, and the reason why all songs remind you of better songs written long ago, is because you're old. Culture is not a vacuum, and every artist stands on the shoulders of giants; all music references something older than itself, and has done so since the first cavemen started making phat beats with sabertooth tiger bones.

"Numetal" was the propaganda term adopted after "hardcore" got the protohipsters in an uproar because of their precious underground scene.

Your second paragraph gets everything wrong to the point of being uncorrectable. That was entirely word salad. You critique music like Patrick Bateman. Like how Thomas Friedman writes books.

Homer, kindly tell me about this crazy Catholic band chick. For my files.

And I've got music I get all upset about too. Or at least music that I used to get all upset about. These days I can only get really excited about hating u2. My hard drive is filled with wonderful tunes.

If EvilHomie ever learns I own a Kill II This album, my whole argument will fall apart.

Numetal and hardcore are entirely different genres and scenes, Mr Dumpster. You should know this already. Also, what precisely do you object to in my second paragraph?! I'm not wrong. Culture is not a vacuum, and the originality you claim was lost because of numetal never really existed in the first place. It's a difficult pill to swallow, I know; we all like to romanticize the music we remember fondly, and imagine that the music we hear nowadays is somehow *objectively* shitty and unoriginal, due to some grand historical conspiracy that conveniently began right around the time we stopped caring about new music, rather than facing the rather depressing prospect that you've simply grown old and jaded, and that this is how the world has always been.

(I'm flattered that you'd compare me to Thomas Friedman, though! I love Thomas Friedman!)

Miss Henson - I don't remember much about them. Some numetal band that had an internet following but never quite broke into the big leagues; the lead singer was a former Catholic schoolgirl who turned into, well, a former Catholic schoolgirl. She used to make a big deal about how all her songs were about Catholicism and sex and torture and creepy Catholic torture sex. IIRC, they sort of sounded like a mixture between Kittie and Jack Off Jill on a really "off" day; they may have toured with Rasputina at one point? That's about all I can recall, sorry.

"Numetal and hardcore are entirely different genres and scenes, Mr Dumpster."
Unless you're a band that made actual money, then no. Or techno before 1995.

"One other thing I'd like to point out is that kids have *never* been able to write a good song"
Not even remotely true, and shows you never looked at who writes songs.

"Culture is not a vacuum, and the originality you claim was lost because of numetal never really existed in the first place."
Those two things are not equivalent, and I wish you'd not use your lazy troll fallacies against me, bring your A game, I have shit to do.

"the reason why all songs remind you of better songs written long ago, is because you're old."
Nonsense statement, music far older than me applies to my opinion, only you seem to care only about the dumb shit written in your lifetime.

"all music references something older than itself, and has done so since the first cavemen started making phat beats with sabertooth tiger bones."
Yes, actual reality, which the Internet generation absolutely cannot do, so they only reference older music. It's telling that you see music as cave man times fast forward your lifetime with nothing in the middle except "LOL YER OLD."

I would say get off my lawn, but this isn't my lawn, and you can have it.

Oh, by the way, if you like chick vocals and darkwavery, you might want to check out older Opera IX.

Mr. Dumpster, I'll look for the Princess Di doc. Stuff like that fascinates me; it's amazing what people will turn to. I cling, with the zeal of any Byzantine monk, to the idea that love will make my life worthwhile. Er'body need something, and for some people I guess it's a princess who looks sort of like a pretty bird.

First, you either have no idea what a hardcore band is, or you're trolling hardcore fans. In the former case, you're probably better off NOT knowing, and in the later, HAWHAW yeah fuck those lameoid hardcore fans! Second, name a few good songs written by kids. Then demonstrate how these good songs were representative of the output of kids as a whole. Third, those things are completely equivalent, the second statement being a corrollary to the first; I don't know how to dumb it down any more for you. Fifth, NO U. *I* am considering all music, in a grand historical context - from dad rock (which was poorly written shlock) to the Baroque masters of Northern Europe (who were constantly ripping off each other's tunes, to a degree that would make Will.I.Am blush) to the latest song Miley Cyrus is working on (which will doubtlessly face the same criticism that Elvis and Stravinsky faced, coming from the same sorts of elderly fuddy-duddies). And sixth, again, how can I dumb this down for you? "Culture is not a vacuum" should be a fairly straightforward, easy to accept concept. Let me ask you this: can you name me one song, any one at all, which does not borrow elements from previously existent music?

aaaand, now it's nuh uh uh huh nuh uh uh huh.

Not worth it.